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View Poll Results: Should Britain leave the E.U. ?
Yes 109 50.00%
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No.. But things MUST change 38 17.43%
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Main difference between UK and Japan is they have a very strong and thriving industrial manufacturing sector. Ours got sold down the river years ago.
We don't invest in training and the training now given is a joke.
We have a trainee that's given a certificate in changing a wheel, really?
The only remaining manufacturing industries are now under foreign ownership, which to be honest usually do far better than when they were under British management.
Our economy is far too reliant on the financial sector.


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Agreed.
Including Japanese ownership of car assembly plants in the UK.

It is clear that the UK/GB would have to change its whole outlook in a manner to which you allude. But, again, the UK needs to do this in any case if globalisation of the world economy continues apace.
(I mentioned the Japanese work ethic which means a lot more than simply being prepared to undertake hands on work - it was the Japanese who took on the principle of Quality Control and developed it to the status of a semi-religion which may be in accord with their own "Zen").
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In rough figures
Japan has about 1 lawyer per 4000 head of population.
Too many lawyers in Japan, says Ministry of Internal Affairs | Majirox News
For the UK, we have about 10 times more per head of population (ie about 1 per 400), and, for comparison, the USA has 1 lawyer per 250 citizens.
(Mr Cameron was talking about another subject today, related to these statistics and mentioned earlier in a broad description of the UK - the compensation culture).
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(I mentioned the Japanese work ethic which means a lot more than simply being prepared to undertake hands on work - it was the Japanese who took on the principle of Quality Control and developed it to the status of a semi-religion which may be in accord with their own "Zen").

Another very good observation, in the uk sector too much emphasis is put on quantity and efficiency over quality.


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5-11 year old statistics
Reference the title I mean the statistics published by the junior school in my link above - a teacher produced them for the pupils use; let's assume they are correct, for these purposes at least.

Health figures: The Japanese spend 3 times more on their health than we do in the UK. (3% to 1%).

Alcohol consumption: we drink a bit more, but hey, that's not excessive.

Savings: private savings rates are extremely different - 3% UK to 13% for Japan.

Land under agriculture: How does Japan feed it's population??

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To match the head of population per land area of Japan, the UK would need to increase the current population by about 20m people.
Each of the 4 named cities outside of London (Sheffield, Glasgow, Birmingham, Leeds) should about triple in size, assuming that enough meaningful employment would be developed to support such increases.

These stats probably identify some key differences between the two countries and why Japan can make a living in the world via its manufacturing capability, including the export of motorcycles of course.

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More statistics
The Japanese have to be living on Sushi and whale meat + some moss growing on the 67% of land given over to forestry.

Land under Agriculture:
Japan 45.6 : 171.64 UK

GDP:
J 6 : 2.44 UK

Average income/head:
J 35.9 : 36.6 UK

Exports:
J 776.6 : 473 UK

Countries Compared by Agriculture > Agricultural land > Sq. km. International Statistics at NationMaster.com
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Another very good observation, in the uk sector too much emphasis is put on quantity and efficiency over quality.


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Thanks.


I have been reading this observation about the Japanese economy, which is quite astounding when considered fully:-
"it is not remarked often enough that, in terms of its working age population, Japan's growth has outpaced that of many of its advanced economy peers, not least the United States. On that basis, in 2000-07, Japan grew at a cumulative rate of 15%, almost twice as fast as the United States (8%) - the reverse of what headline growth rates show (10% and 18%). The difference is even bigger if the post-crisis years are also considered."

The "crisis" referenced therein is also called the "Great Financial Crisis" in the source document (below) i.e. that which occured in 2007-08.


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