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Originally Posted by Fastship
Many are the reasons why we MUST leave the EU; this being a motorcycle forum consider that the (unelected) EU commission actively legislates to eradicate motorcycles (contrary to their own regulations) and has passed or proposed many laws criminalising us for such egregious “crimes” as fitting a crash bar and compelling dealers to report to the "authorities" those of us who modify our own property contrary to their edicts. In small things great truths are revealed.
The EU oligarchs are on their back legs to ensure the status quo and to get us to vote in the “right” way and if we don't they will come back again and again as they did with Ireland until we vote “correctly”!
When contemplating just why these oligarchs wish to keep things as they are here is an example which may be considered a metaphor; The Mercedes Benz truck that takes the cheap goods to the ship in China costs £30k. The Mercedes Benz truck that collects those goods from the ship in the EU costs £130k. You can't buy the Chinese Mercedes Benz truck in the EU.
It is clear to see who benefits from such a state of affairs and ask the young people of Spain, Greece, Italy et al who dis benefits and if in a stronger, federalised EU with a neutered UK (that voted to stay in) will the youth of the UK face a similar fate? For those that don't keep up with these things youth un-employment in those places is as high as 60%.
When faced with the great and the good such as (Sir) John Major claiming they are acting in Britain's interests when advocating staying in you may ascertain in just whose interests they are acting by asking them just how they became multi millionaires on a civil servants pay.
Most of Europe acts under the old “Code Napoleon” in which the people are subservient to the state. In the UK (notionally) it is the opposite. The doctrine of the EU is one of total government the inevitable end point of which is totalitarianism and war. It is the European way, always has been and always will be. Grow a spine and vote leave. You know it makes sense.
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It's very hard to argue with those points... In fact I agree with them.
I dislike the EU. I'm not pro EU at all.
But perhaps 'Better the devil you know'
What is out future is we close the door to what is by far our biggest trading partner and access to skilled or cheap labour ??
New trade deals aren't going to just appear overnight and our products and services are not going to be cheap. We will end up in competition with the EU and I don't think it's battle we can win.
There are plenty of counties who can beat our prices on pretty much everything..
And we all know those childish beaurocrats in Europe will make us pay for leaving.
And what about the Billions in subsidies we receive from the EU ?? I think it costs every UK citizen about £130 a year for EU membership. I pay more to be in the AA.
Britain is not a global super power. It's a small Island and the actual global powers are not in awe of us any anymore. We can't scare anyone with our Navy and we dont have anything special to sell anymore.
I think if we do leave, it will be painful. There will be severe consequences.
It might be worth it in the long run. With that I agree..
But for those not nearing or in retirement with their own houses or nest eggs, its could be a very bitter pill to swallow and really hurt a lot of people.
So when this vote comes along, are you going to vote what suits the greater good of our nation or what makes you feel better about yourself.
It's a tricky decision and not to be taken lightly. The politicians will just do what suits themselves as always.
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Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
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