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Updated spoke/TL list 2023 below (saves going back to the OP).
Happy to receive your additions.

Re alloys on adv bikes Tim, I suspect these days and even back in the OPs time you will struggle to find a non-TL (unlipped) wheel in alloy – a good reason to get travel bikes with them fitted from the factory.
My rationale for helping this list along was for fitting used TL spoked rims from the list to other spoke-hub bikes as an alternative to DIY sealing a normal rim with mastic and tape, or proprietary methods like Airtight™ or BARTubeless™
But as Antyx asked unanswered back in 2018:
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So... what's stopping anyone from sourcing a set of those flanged spoked wheels and fitting them to your bike as part of the pre-trip prep?
The problem is these OEM spoked TL rims use either outboard spokes (BMW, Triumph, Guzzi and most others), or inboard flanges (these days mostly Suzuki).
On both systems the spoke is reversed with the threaded end screwed into the nipple in the hub, not the rim. That pretty much eliminates matching such a rim with a conventional hub.
You then need to marry your full TL spoke wheel with its hub to your forks with all the spindle/rotors/ABS ring alignment issues.
At that point you might as well choose any alloy in the size you want as it's bound to be TL, and of which there are many more for bigger bikes.
I did that on my XSR700 using a 19er off an XV950.
Swapping rear hubs back gets even more complicated. I seem to recall I fitted some DR spoked hub onto my GS500 (came with alloys). So in that way, for my purposes this list has become a bit redundant.

All which is why for a travel bike you are better off buying a bike with stock TL wheels – in most cases they'll be alloys.
IMO, the whole OEM spoked TL rim thing is vanity driven, but if it's tubeless, who cares as it beats tubes.

Fyi, my many pages of tubeless conversions here:
https://adventure-motorcycling.com/c...s-to-tubeless/
Current working it out on my 300L – expensive as with small bikes like this 'MT' (TL lipped) rim choice is limited and a little wider.

Talking of mousses which I know you have used Tim. The other day I had the idea of fitting them into a TL sealed but conventional non-MT spoked wheel (like my Honda). Ie: no safety lips.
The idea was the mousse would keep the bead in place in the event of a flat or hard hit, but TL sealing would enable running road pressures which ought to minimise tyre flex and hopefully keep the ~15psi rated 'off-road only' mousse cool.
Turns out John at Rally Raid tried this on a T7 @ 40psi and it seemed to work in the short term. Not sure I'd want to risk it on a long trip to a hot place.

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BMW R1100 GS Adventure
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Ducati DesertX (search: 'Desert X wheel issues'...)
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