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Photo by George Guille, It's going to be a long 300km... Bolivian Amazon

I haven't been everywhere...
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It's going to be a long 300km...
Bolivian Amazon



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List of travel bikes with stock (OEM) tubeless spoked wheels

I'm looking to compile a list of current (readily available to buy today) adventure and dual-sport motorcycles that are fitted with tubeless spoked wheels as standard. I will edit this post to add any bikes you suggest fit this criteria. Thanks for your help! I am looking to see what my options are for a bike that has both ABS and tubeless (no tubes inside tubeless) spoked wheels fitted.
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  • BMW F850 GS
  • BMW R1200 GS Adventure
  • Suzuki V-Strom 650XT
  • Suzuki V-Strom 1000XT
  • Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
  • Yamaha XT1200Z Super Ténéré
  • KTM 1090 Adventure R
  • KTM 1190 Adventure R
  • KTM 1290 Super Adventure R
  • Triumph 1200 Scrambler
  • KTM 790 Adventure and Adventure R
  • Ducati Multistrada 1260 Enduro (19" front)
  • Honda Africa Twin CRF1100L (2020)

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  • Honda XL 600 LM (1980s)
  • Previous BMW models like R1100GS and R1150GS
  • Old Aprilia Caponord
  • Honda X-ADV

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new v-stroms 650 and 1000
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new v-stroms 650 and 1000
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Does anyone know if the BMW 800 GSA comes with tubeless spoked wheels?
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1980s Honda XL 600 LM. Yes, it is still current as it can be used to go around the world. ;-)



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1980s Honda XL 600 LM. Yes, it is still current as it can be used to go around the world. ;-)
Nice! Added to the list.
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XTZ 1200 Yamaha Super Tenere

Triumph Explorer 1200

Previous BMW models like R1100GS and R1150GS

Old Aprilia Caponord

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- KTM 1090 Adventure R
- KTM 1190 adventure R
-KTM 1290 Super Adventure R
- all models od R1200GS



wish new Africa Twin had tubeless wheels as well
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- KTM 1090 Adventure R
- KTM 1190 adventure R
-KTM 1290 Super Adventure R
- all models od R1200GS



wish new Africa Twin had tubeless wheels as well
No. There isn't any KTM with spoked tubeless rims. New AT is even more off-road oriented so as well good old normal rims!
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Tubeless Rims with Spokes

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I'm looking to compile a list of current (readily available to buy today) adventure and dual-sport motorcycles that are fitted with tubeless spoked wheels as standard. I will edit this post to add any bikes you suggest fit this criteria. Thanks for your help! I am looking to see what my options are for a bike that has both ABS and tubeless (no tubes inside tubeless) spoked wheels fitted.
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  • BMW R1200 GS Adventure
  • Suzuki V-Strom 650XT
  • Suzuki V-Strom 1000XT
  • Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
  • Yamaha XT1200Z Super Ténéré

Honorable Mentions:
  • Honda XL 600 LM (1980s)
  • Previous BMW models like R1100GS and R1150GS
  • Old Aprilia Caponord
BMW, being a German company, use the Behr wheel rim patent.
Rim for a spoked wheel - Behr Industry Motorcycle Components GmbH
I guess Aprilia did that also with the earlier Caponord.

Any bike manufacturer could pay the patent fee to Behr and use that design of rim, assuming that Behr still hold that patent.

The other fairly common arrangement is the one shown in the pic of the old Honda: the same arrangement that Suzuki have been using on their modern V Strom. i.e. the "flange" built into the rim - I guess no one holds a patent on that??
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Moto Guzzi Stelvio, I believe they are Alpina wheels. Incidentally I've just fitted a pair to my 2017 Bonneville T120.
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1980s Honda XL 600 LM. Yes, it is still current as it can be used to go around the world. ;-)
Interesting. We got the XL600R in USA back in the 80's, but I don't ever recall seeing that Tubeless rim. (I owned red/white/blue 1987 one)

Who makes those tubeless wheels on that bike? Japanese usually use DID wheels. Or Excel?

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wish new Africa Twin had tubeless wheels as well
That's the mystery of the year in ADV bikes. Why would Honda NOT do that? Everyone wants it ... and many would pay a few bucks more to have it!
I'm betting Honda will offer them next model year or when they do an update.

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No. There isn't any KTM with spoked tubeless rims. New AT is even more off-road oriented as well so good old normal rims
I wondered about that myself. This past weekend I rode with a friend riding his new '17 KTM 1050. IIRC, it did not have tubeless spoked wheels.

We were talking about wheels as we also had another friend on a new 2017 Yamaha 1200 Tenere'. This was his 2nd big Tenere'. He said first one had same tubeless wheels and that they proved very tough riding fast off road. He liked the bike so much ... he bought another.

He thought the wheel patent was held by Aprilia, but I have no idea if that's accurate. I know Behr was in the mix there somewhere but early Behr wheels on GS's had bad reputation for being SOFT.

I'd like to know who actually manufactures the Yamaha Tenere' wheels .... and most of all ... why Honda did not use them
on it's Africa Twin!!!
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wish new Africa Twin had tubeless wheels as well
Yes I think many prospective buyers, me included, agree with you!
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Does anyone know if the BMW 800 GSA comes with tubeless spoked wheels?
No, the 800GS and 800GSA have 21/17-in tubed which is why I bought the BMW F650GS twin with 19/17-in alloy tubeless wheels.

Spoked wheels might have some advantage if you are racing but if you are adventure touring then in my opinion there's no reliability disadvantage with an alloys/tubeless mix, which opens your options to a whole new list of bikes to choose from, though the narrower profile and taller 21/17 or 21/18 wheels will always be preferable to 19/17.


Nothing wrong with alloys here!

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No. There isn't any KTM with spoked tubeless rims
No that's wrong, the KTM 1090 Adventure R, 1190 Adventure R and 1290 Super Adventure R are all fitted with 21/18-in spoked tubeless rims.

I hate tubes with a vengeance and run my KTM 690 Enduro R (21/18 spoked tubed) with mousses instead of tubes.
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Yes. Tubeless they are.

Anyone know what sort of tubeless wheel they use on the KTM's?

Behr? or other?

If that 1090 was a couple inches shorter I might be on board one.
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No that's wrong, the KTM 1090 Adventure R, 1190 Adventure R and 1290 Super Adventure R are all fitted with 21/18-in spoked tubeless rims.
Are you completely sure that are tubeless rims???
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