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Originally Posted by Tim Cullis
No that's wrong, the KTM 1090 Adventure R, 1190 Adventure R and 1290 Super Adventure R are all fitted with 21/18-in spoked tubeless rims.
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Are you completely sure that are tubeless rims???
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wish new Africa Twin had tubeless wheels as well
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Why not just fit a conversion tape kit and make them
wheels on an AT "Tubeless"
My DCT AT was converted from new 35.000 KM ago with no problem.
For peace of mind, I fitted a pressure monitoring system to check the pressure in both wheels.
As of today, I have never had a problem.
Works for me.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuff Said
Why not just fit a conversion tape kit and make them
wheels on an AT "Tubeless"
My DCT AT was converted from new 35.000 KM ago with no problem.
For peace of mind, I fitted a pressure monitoring system to check the pressure in both wheels.
As of today, I have never had a problem.
Works for me.
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Good suggestion. I heard about tape kits to convert Tubed to Tubeless maybe 10 years ago. Back then I'm not sure they were 100% reliable. Now, latest UTubes I've seen and forum chatter, indicates they are pretty fool proof.
Woody's Wheel Works (USA) I believe has resumed doing tubeless conversions but still won't do a front wheel, only rear. Fine for me as front is pretty easy to spoon off and replace a tube ... and anyway ... seems we always get a REAR flat! Not a Front!
BTW, I followed a tutorial using a high quality Marine sealer to make my DR650 rims tubeless. I could not get it to work. Not even sure from where it was leaking ... but obviously I did something wrong.
The newest Tape kits seem to work much better.
KTM's solution seems fraught with possible problems. IMO, the wheel needs to be Spoke Free (meaning spoke NOT going into inside of air tight wheel area) to have a proper tubeless set up, even though many are doing well with latest Tape kits. I'd need a PRO to do it for me ... I apparently suck at such operations!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuff Said
Why not just fit a conversion tape kit and make them
wheels on an AT "Tubeless"
My DCT AT was converted from new 35.000 KM ago with no problem.
For peace of mind, I fitted a pressure monitoring system to check the pressure in both wheels.
As of today, I have never had a problem.
Works for me.
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Exactly what i had done by Devon Wheel Builders, a fine set of custom wheels for a special build i'm doing, thoroughly recommend them for UK readers here...
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X-ADV scooter is another one for the list, but maybe not in the OP's 'adventure and dual-sport motorcycles' category.
I've sealed (or had sealed) spoked rims to run tubeless on a few bikes, some more successfully than others. See here.
As Tim says, the bead retaining lip in a spoked rim is key but not always present on the front. So these days if I'm changing wheel sizes (as I recently did to my XSR700), I'd sooner find a cast wheel that fits to preserve tubelessness.
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Spoked wheels might have some advantage if you are racing but if you are adventure touring then in my opinion there's no reliability disadvantage with an alloys/tubeless mix, which opens your options to a whole new list of bikes to choose from...
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I agree with Tim entirely and Toby E...
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I suspect that spoked wheels may be more of a cosmetic rather than practical feature...
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... I agree with that too. Cast or spoked not bothered, but much prefer tubeless.
Just back from Morocco trying out the new 310 and among the many sensible adaptions for off-road riding I was disappointed to see the rental place had gone to all the effort of swapping out the nice alloys for spoked which in this case unfortunately means tubes. There are certainly not always unsprung weight benefits in going spoked, as on the CB500X RR.
What is more likely on the long road: smashing your cast rim beyond repair but walking away - or having to fix a puncture in 32°C?
For the type of travelling which HU is about tubeless is clearly best, but not all will agree. C'est la vie.
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for adventure, off-raod use I'd rather have spoked wheels any time of the day and night. When you crack you cast wheel in the middle of nowhere you pretty much done, not so much with spoked wheel. Not to mention absorption of bumps and S#$% on the road is far better with spokes wheels...
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Just make sure you carry a full set of spokes and passed the wheel-building course...
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OP's list updated - see 1st post.
Fyi, for those with regular spoked wheels in search of TL, I recently used a vulcanised band called Airtight from Central Wheel Components (UK) to seal the spokes. £120.
Excel rim; Anakee Wild tyre.
Threw in some Slime and no complaints.
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Expanding my search to include alloy wheels would, as you say, open up my options considerably, which would be most welcome, as many of the bikes on the current list (top post) is beyond my set budget!
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Originally Posted by Chris Scott
OP's list updated - see 1st post.
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Chris, given the OP's comment above it might be interesting to include a category for tubeless alloy adventure bikes. Your knowledge of different bikes is better than mine, so feel free to hack the list below if you want.
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Old Aprilia Caponord
BMW F850 GS and F850 GS Adventure
BMW R1100 GS Adventure
BMW R1150 GS Adventure
BMW R1200 GS Adventure
BMW R1250 GS Adventure
Ducati Multistrada 1260 Enduro (19" front)
Honda Africa Twin CRF1100L (2020)
Honda XL 600 LM (1980s)
Honda X-ADV 750
KTM 790 Adventure and 790 Adventure R (not Rally model)
KTM 890 Adventure and 890 Adventure R (not Rally model)
KTM 1090 Adventure R
KTM 1190 Adventure R
KTM 1290 Super Adventure R
Suzuki V-Strom 650XT
Suzuki V-Strom 1000XT
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Yamaha XT1200Z Super Ténéré
Triumph 1200 Scrambler
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BMW G310 GS
BMW G650 GS single
BMW F650 GS twin
BMW F700 GS
BMW F750 GS
BMW R1100 GS
BMW R1150 GS
BMW R1200 GS
BMW R1250 GS
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If this list is being maintained, you should add the Aprilia Tuareg 660
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KTM tubeless
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Are you completely sure that are tubeless rims???
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This is how KTM do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Ucwqhd0tI
Maybe different markets receive the bikes with different rims? (i.e. just leave out that internal rubber fitting and fit a tube instead).
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Moto Guzzi V85TT have been spoked I believe since Year 2 or 3
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