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I called up Air Canada Cargo a few times this week because I was looking to fly my bike from Toronto to Buenos Aires. They informed me that even though the promotion just started in March, that they are no longer transporting motorcycles to any destination in South America. They stated that there have been many difficulties for their customers clearing customs and for reason stopped this service.
However they did nention that you can still fly the bike within Canada as well as to Europe at the discounted rates.

This is completely (at least) wrong.
In what to Argentina correspond here there isn’t any problem for clear customs, travelers are coming with their bikes constantly here and didn’t find any difficulty for release a bike and clear customs after pay the local charges for the airport cargo logistics.
The situation is exactly the same than before here with Air Canada or any other airline, and customs doesn’t change anything apart of a few stupid details requires.


As far we could find out by now Air Canada could have some space problems coming to South America, probably as they could be giving priorities to perishable good that pay extremely more expensive than a motorbike.

Or maybe all is because they are afraid that someone reclaims for the promotional price that they were offering and they realize they can’t give.
That was the problem in the beginning; I think I explain it on a previous post. They were offering a price without notice that there (here) exist local charges that someone has to pay…

(Note for a Moderator: I think we have 2 threads talking about same subject, can be unified?)

We are receiving few bikes this week, one coming with AC, will keep you informed…
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Hola
As promised here is the update:

Last Friday without any issue we have received a bike trough Air Canada coming from UK via Toronto.

Wasn’t any problem at Buenos Aires customs as well as with all other bikes coming in from other countries and with many other Airlines.

Any question or doubt than anybody could have we can try to answer…

There is other thread on same AirCanada thing going around here:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...3-2#post500511

(maybe Markharf or other Mod see the sense for joint both in one)

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See from what I understood while speaking to them on three or four different occasions was that the problem was once you got to the deatination in South America.
They said that they are still flying motorcycles to Europe, just not SA. I called them up on their 1-800 number in Toronto.
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AIR CANADA. Argentina to Toronto Canada

Hey everyone,

Im looking to ship my bike home near Christmas and I was quoted $2,080.00USD from Buenos Aires to Toronto?

Where did you find this amazinf deal fro $1000.00?

Am I getting ripped off?

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That deal supposedly went through September 30. I called them a month before that date and they said they didn't have any kind of promotion like that.
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This is part of the reply i got from motofreight

The special that Air Canada is currently running is based on you dealing directly with them and we would not be involved. It does**include:

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Dangerous goods preparationDangerous goods certificationCratingCustoms paperwork at originCustoms paperwork at destination

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It is also worth noting that the prices being advertised by Air Canada from their head offices in Canada are not the rates being offered from London to Canadian airports. Please feel free to get in touch with Air Canada directly to obtain a rate from them. Please be careful to make sure you obtain all of the costs involved, as there may be some unexpected additional charges that you should establish in advance of shipping.

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Air Canada Motorcycle Shipment Insane deal!

Just got quoted shipment of my bike from Toronto to Heathrow for $1000 Cdn, all in on a pallet in the belly of a wide body Air Canada. If I was to book my flight the cost would drop to $700!! Two weeks ago I was quoted $3250 for the same flight plus about $400 in fees at either end. You can only book 30 days prior to departure, so get your guaranteed quote for the next year sooner than later. Apparently these prices will be in effect for the rest of 2015, and they will soon be adding more destinations world wide.

The outgoing flights must originate from Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver and go to many European and South America destinations, basically wherever AC flys wide body jets for similar rock bottom prices.

These prices can be booked direct with Air Canada Cargo in Toronto, or through one of their forwarding companies that they deal with regularly. I use Roddy Warriner​ at Motofreight in the UK--a fellow GS rider himself--he will treat you fairly and well. If you are shipping into Canada, see him first as he can get you the same deal and handle all the Dangerous Good papers at that end. He can also help with paperwork from North America destinations. He knows his stuff.
This is part of the reply I got from motofreight
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That last post is supposed to read "does NOT include" also does not include crating
So the price might not be as good as it looks?
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For starters, if you are shipping the bike on a wide-body aircraft, you normally don't need to crate it or palletize it - you just show up at the airport freight terminal with the bike, and the freight handler will tie the bike down inside a ULD (Uniform Load Device), which is like a large aluminum can. Or they will put it on what looks like a gigantic flat aluminum cookie sheet that has the same dimensions as the base of the ULD in the photo below.

The Dangerous Goods paperwork is relatively easy to fill out. What makes the process tricky (for someone who has never filled out DG paperwork before) is that by law, the person receiving the freight and the carrier who is transporting the freight are both prohibited from filling out the DG paperwork for you - you have to complete the forms yourself. But, they can certainly give you the blank forms, and will most likely loan you their office copy of the DG Regulations handbook to enable you to fill out the form yourself.

Best thing to do to put your mind at ease about the crating / palletizing process and the DG paperwork process is to go visit the freight shed (the folks who will accept the shipment) well in advance, and suss things out with them over a coffee.

For what it's worth, I've shipped my motorcycle back and forth from Canada to Europe numerous times, it is generally a pretty simple and trouble-free process. The paperwork is not that difficult to do. But, if you have never done it before, don't expect to simply show up at the airport on the day of departure and toss the keys at the freight agent. Instead, go see the freight agent many weeks ahead of time to find out what the process is, what your responsibilities are, etc.

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Motorcycle in a ULD for shipment from Canada to Europe


Same motorcycle, on a pallet for shipment from Europe to Canada


The pallet (shown above) simply got forked into a ULD
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Thanks for that I will email air canada and see what they say
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Hey

The offer is only valid from North America to Europe... Not from Europe to Canada.

Misleading advertisement.

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Air Canada Motorcycle Shipment Insane deal!

Just got quoted shipment of my bike from Toronto to Heathrow for $1000 Cdn, all in on a pallet in the belly of a wide body Air Canada. If I was to book my flight the cost would drop to $700!! Two weeks ago I was quoted $3250 for the same flight plus about $400 in fees at either end. You can only book 30 days prior to departure, so get your guaranteed quote for the next year sooner than later. Apparently these prices will be in effect for the rest of 2015, and they will soon be adding more destinations world wide.

The outgoing flights must originate from Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver and go to many European and South America destinations, basically wherever AC flys wide body jets for similar rock bottom prices.

These prices can be booked direct with Air Canada Cargo in Toronto, or through one of their forwarding companies that they deal with regularly. I use Roddy Warriner​ at Motofreight in the UK--a fellow GS rider himself--he will treat you fairly and well. If you are shipping into Canada, see him first as he can get you the same deal and handle all the Dangerous Good papers at that end. He can also help with paperwork from North America destinations. He knows his stuff.
This deal does not apply to any South American destinations, only Europe.
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If any of you guys ever make it to Ireland on this killer deal, be sure to call in to my spot in Ireland and make yourselves at home.
You are welcome to camp here and use my workshop to make any repairs or adjustments to your bike.
We are at the southern tip of the "wild Atlantic way" in Ireland.
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Moto is Booked 2 Oct to Frankfurt from Vancouver. Will post final costs when I get it together. The Dangerous Goods Cert was $99 Can. still more than it should be for one page that you provide all the info for.

Info here- Air Canada's new motorcycle cargo options - Canada Moto Guide

Wheatwhacker if the weather is ok maybe I will head that way before I go south to Africa. No planned route this time, just going to bumble around.

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Air Canada Motorcycle Shipment Insane deal!

Just got quoted shipment of my bike from Toronto to Heathrow for $1000 Cdn, all in on a pallet in the belly of a wide body Air Canada. If I was to book my flight the cost would drop to $700!! Two weeks ago I was quoted $3250 for the same flight plus about $400 in fees at either end. You can only book 30 days prior to departure, so get your guaranteed quote for the next year sooner than later. Apparently these prices will be in effect for the rest of 2015, and they will soon be adding more destinations world wide.

The outgoing flights must originate from Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver and go to many European and South America destinations, basically wherever AC flys wide body jets for similar rock bottom prices.

These prices can be booked direct with Air Canada Cargo in Toronto, or through one of their forwarding companies that they deal with regularly. I use Roddy Warriner​ at Motofreight in the UK--a fellow GS rider himself--he will treat you fairly and well. If you are shipping into Canada, see him first as he can get you the same deal and handle all the Dangerous Good papers at that end. He can also help with paperwork from North America destinations. He knows his stuff.
I have a quote myself from Motorcycleexpress for Ams-Chicago and return LA-Ams at 2790$. And as you mentioned; guaranteed price, but only able to book 30 days in advance. As I am planning a 2 months trip to US 2016 I am very keen on how your planning is going on. I am not sure which airfreight they use as Chicago and LA is yet not on the Air Canada destinations?
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This is what I just (2015/10/30) received from AC:

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Unfortunately, our Fly Your Bike program ended 1OCT. We may start again in the spring. Please email back in January if your still interested.

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see also: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...3-3#post519421
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