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Originally Posted by PanEuropean
Don't interpret that as suggesting that Canada thinks Sinovac is a bad vaccine.
Most likely, it's not on the Canadian approved list because Canada never purchased that vaccine for use in Canada - hence, there was no reason to approve it.
I suspect that as time goes by (meaning, over the coming winter) and large amounts of trustworthy data become available on the efficacy of various vaccines, countries will ACCEPT vaccination certificates for vaccines they have not personally approved. Likely the WHO will take the lead on this matter, providing member nations with lists of the vaccines that have been proven to be effective.
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its all fine and dandy if your vaccination is on the approval list But not everyone has the option for what is on the list. Take what I can get is my option
and if I have to go back to work in Ca,nada then I Have to pay for the Q hotel
Not Fair there are 40 or 50 thousand Canucks abroad working that may not have a option on a Canadian approved vaccine and we pay taxes also.
I wrote to the Canadian Consulate in Bogota asking about Inoculations for Canadians living in Colombia they Replied and said we are not supplying vaccines for Canadians Abroad I was Flabbergasted.
maybe is just Colombia I dont know
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Tohellnback:
You have several choices available to you:
1) Get vaccinated (again) in Columbia with a vaccine that is on the Canadian government approved list.
2) Wait until the Canadian government publishes a policy that addresses acceptance of vaccines other than the ones approved for use in Canada. Canadian newspapers have reported that the government is working on this matter now, and expects a policy to be published sometime in July.
3) Come to Canada, go through the quarantine protocol, then get vaccinated here (free of charge) with a vaccine on the Canada-approved list so you don't encounter the same problem again in the future.
From what I have read, the efficacy of the Chinese Sinovac vaccine is considerably lower than the efficacy of the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna), especially against variants (e.g. Delta). So it is in your best interests to protect yourself with a mRNA vaccine, especially since you will be travelling between continents, and especially because protection in Columbia might be in doubt due to the use of less-effective vaccines.
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Here's what I did find out recently, when researched for bike shipping to North America:
Westjet offers bike shipping from Paris to Canada this year. It's handled by Motorcycleexpress, see here.
In November 2021 I asked the Air Canada cargo guys in Frankfurt about the Fly-your-bike program for 2022. They promised to put me on a list of people to be informed, when they get news/the program starts again. Hope their offer will come soon again and be more competitive.
Insurance most probably will still be a major issue for those, who want to ship their bike over to North America. Very expensive or very hard to get in advance.
Therefore I consider to buy a bike in the US. But the registration/insurance seems to be still an issue for an foreigner.
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31 Jan 2022
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Originally Posted by WoK
Here's what I did find out recently, when researched for bike shipping to North America:
Westjet offers bike shipping from Paris to Canada this year. It's handled by Motorcycleexpress, see here.
In November 2021 I asked the Air Canada cargo guys in Frankfurt about the Fly-your-bike program for 2022. They promised to put me on a list of people to be informed, when they get news/the program starts again. Hope their offer will come soon again and be more competitive.
Insurance most probably will still be a major issue for those, who want to ship their bike over to North America. Very expensive or very hard to get in advance.
Therefore I consider to buy a bike in the US. But the registration/insurance seems to be still an issue for an foreigner. |
Great news about westjet.
As to purchase in USA, I have also had a hard time getting definitive info but know someone who did it in California. Wish people would document the process when they work it out.
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31 Jan 2022
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As to purchase in USA, I have also had a hard time getting definitive info but know someone who did it in California. Wish people would document the process when they work it out.
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Interesting information. Yes, I'm with you! Would like to know about this case too.
Are you going to purchase a vehicle in the US?
Then don't forget to drop a message about your progress ;-).
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31 Jan 2022
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Interesting information. Yes, I'm with you! Would like to know about this case too.
Are you going to purchase a vehicle in the US?
Then don't forget to drop a message about your progress ;-).
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Will do.
My current priority has been Colombia, Peru and Ecuador where details are easy to see. Colombia is easiest. Other two are very possible but might need several weeks to get official ownership card. I’m currently finishing up an Ecuadorian trip. Did a Peru trip before COVID.
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Originally Posted by WoK
Here's what I did find out recently, when researched for bike shipping to North America:
Westjet offers bike shipping from Paris to Canada this year. It's handled by Motorcycleexpress, see here.
In November 2021 I asked the Air Canada cargo guys in Frankfurt about the Fly-your-bike program for 2022. They promised to put me on a list of people to be informed, when they get news/the program starts again. Hope their offer will come soon again and be more competitive.
Insurance most probably will still be a major issue for those, who want to ship their bike over to North America. Very expensive or very hard to get in advance.
Therefore I consider to buy a bike in the US. But the registration/insurance seems to be still an issue for an foreigner. |
Dont hold your breath on Air Canada. Nobody is going to fly freight cheaply at the moment unless they absolutely have to. Why would they when prices...and profits....are thru the roof. The only way you stand a chance of a good deal is sectors with high passenger/low cargo volume.
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Dont hold your breath on Air Canada. Nobody is going to fly freight cheaply at the moment unless they absolutely have to. Why would they when prices...and profits....are thru the roof. The only way you stand a chance of a good deal is sectors with high passenger/low cargo volume.
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You're most probably right. This is why I consider to buy a bike in the US.
If bike shipping for both ways is more than US$4k it's definitely worth to consider this option. Have seen KLRs offered for this amount. In 2018 I paid about US$2700 both ways. Back then I was on limited time (8 weeks riding in Canada/Alaska) and therefore buying a bike would have been to complicated.
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Originally Posted by WoK
Here's what I did find out recently, when researched for bike shipping to North America:
Westjet offers bike shipping from Paris to Canada this year. It's handled by Motorcycleexpress, see here.
In November 2021 I asked the Air Canada cargo guys in Frankfurt about the Fly-your-bike program for 2022. They promised to put me on a list of people to be informed, when they get news/the program starts again. Hope their offer will come soon again and be more competitive.
Insurance most probably will still be a major issue for those, who want to ship their bike over to North America. Very expensive or very hard to get in advance.
Therefore I consider to buy a bike in the US. But the registration/insurance seems to be still an issue for an foreigner. |
Buying a bike (2019) was pretty easy in Canada and we could just ride it round Nth America with no issues
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12 Aug 2022
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Buying a bike (2019) was pretty easy in Canada and we could just ride it round Nth America with no issues
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Which nationality are you?
How did you get insurance in Canada? I never heard/read of any foreigner (not living in Canada), who got insurance in Canada.
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12 Aug 2022
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Contact Carrie at Motorcycle express - Transat fly ride at pre Covid prices.
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Air Canada Cargo Fly your Bike program 2022
I checked in with Air Canada Cargo. The program is cancelled for 2022. All routes, everywhere.
There is HOPE for 2023, IF freight gets back to some semblance of normal. But no promises on that.
The issue, as most people are aware, is that the entire freight system world wide is out of whack and overloaded. Flights are reduced significantly, and where before there was empty space on many tourist routes, as passengers luggage didn't fill the hold, now it's FULL of cargo. They can't get enough cargo space for the demand.
CURRENT pricing for one pallet, (which a bike takes all of):
Vancouver to Heathrow, C$11,640. One way.
Renting or buying overseas just got a LOT more attractive.
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I have just had a very long chat with Carrie at Motorcycle Express.
She can currently do USD2791 from Vancouver to Heathrow - via Air Canada!
She's working hard to make it happen for travellers and looks to be doing a good job. (Mike passed away in November, so she's on her own)
Prices change, availability changes, nothing is fixed, but check in with her, and be sure to tell her you heard about her from Horizons Unlimited! 
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I also just spoke with Carrie and Motorcycle Express.
I'm trying to ship from Seattle (so it would have to be Vancouver with Air Canada according to her) to Lima, Peru in Feb or March, then return from Colombia three months later.
She said that as of now they aren't doing South America, but are trying to get into that gig, and will let me know.
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