Hi I dont know if anyone has discussed a meetind point yet, but my last confirmed date thus far is the Czech Gp in Brno 16 August
If you require anytihng or I can help in any way please contact me.
Glad to be on board.
Cheers Stephen

Hi Christian Vogel,

Wonderdul to know about the many countries you are riding through.

Am in India and Bikers are Welcom home alwayz. Do let me know when you are in India. Shall catch up and ride a distance together if posssible. Any assistance here please give me a shout.

All the best.

Hi Stephen

Am in India and bikers are welcome home..let me know when you come to India.

Looking forward to hosting you or riding a distance too.

All the Best

Hi Kayjay Thanks for the kind offer,a bit of local knowledge and hospitality will be welcomed at this stage of my tour.
Where about are you located so i can put you into the route plan.
Cheers Stephen

Am in Gujarat State Vadidaa city.

Vadodara city

kim - any idea if the china tour companies require copies of our visas weeks in advance? i was considering just getting it in kyrgyzstan, but if they need to be finalised earlier i need to look at getting them in turkey or iran.

also, will the tour company be able to provide LOIs?

Hi K2nny

I will find out for you.

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Dear all,

I´m Frank (inti) and tried to form a group in July/August. Unfortunately Jose had to switch his tour on 2016. Therefore we thought about our timetable as well. We rearranged our tour, so we would like to join your group as well (we are two bikes / two person). Is that ok for you?

Do you have got a detailed plan already?

Greetings from northern Germany

Frank

Update

Hi everyone I have just had the 2015 prices through from NAVO so I think we are in a position to start setting some dates.

Dates

Group closure date 28th of February, while it will be technically possible to make changes after this date form my own sanity it would be good if we had a firm yes from everyone by this date.

50% deposit paid to me before the 1st of May, NAVAO have asked that the payment comes to them as one payment.

50% balance paid to me before the 1st of August

Enter China 3rd September, this date has been chosen to ensure we get to border crossings on days they are open.

Enter Pakistan on the 7th of September

Costs (assuming a group over 4)

Rider with bike CYN 7900 each (around £845 on 26/01/15)
Extra rider (sharing bike) CYN 1100
Pillion Passenger 500 CYN

I am happy with these costs and the service I have got from NAVO so am not looking into any other options.

If you need a cheaper option then I would suggest putting another group together and looking at other companies offering similar tours.

After some discussion the trip I am booking will have a NAVO car with it the whole time, if you want to join with your own car then I think it would be a great help to have an extra car but it won't change the price.

Itinerary
1 Tourgart/Irkeshtam（Entry）-Kashgar* Kashgar 170km 4h Deal with all procedure at the border with the help of the guide, then go to Kashgar

2 Kashgar Kashgar Deal with the remaining procedures in the local Traffic Administration Office in the morning, get your Chinese temporary driver license and vehicle plate etc, if you still have some time in the afternoon, you can visit: Old Kashgar City, Sunday Market & Livestock Market; Id Kah Mosque;Abakh Hoja Tomb etc if you are interested in.

3 Kashgar - Karakuli Lake Karakuli Lake 210km 4.5h Heading to Karakuli Lake and stay overnight there with tranquil Lake

4 Karakuli Lake - Tashkorgan Tashkorgan 110km 2.5h Take some time staying in Karakuli rippling the beautiful snow mountain reflection, after that, drive to Tashkorgan, the ruins of a huge mud-brick fort still stand on the edge of town, and although estimated to be about 600 years old, local lore says Tashkurgan has been a citadel for over 2300 years. Also, you can enjoy beautiful scenery of Pamirs here. The Greek philosopher-scientist Ptolemy (AD 90–168) mentioned Tashkurgan in his Guide to Geography as a stop on the road to China. The Chinese Buddhist pilgrim Xuan Zang wrote about the fortress in the 7th century, when it was the furthest frontier outpost of the Tang dynasty.

5 Tashkorgan - Kunjerab Pass (Eixt) 130km 3h In the morning, drive to Kunjerab and deal with the exit procedure, then leave China for Parkistan.

(Neil has suggested we ask about adding an extra day to the to the trip so we have time to do the site seeing in Kashgar, with a large group there may not be time after all the paperwork, this would put the price up a little. if the majority of the group are interested then I will ask for a price. )

Included

Permits for Self-driving group
All the Permits needed.

Entry and exit process
CIQ(China Inspection and Quarantine) and customs clearance for your vehicles at the enter/exit border

Cost for vehicles
Temporary Chinese number plate and insurance for vehicles etc. (the third party insurance which is also called the The Traffic Accident Liability Compulsory Insurance)

Cost for riders/drivers
Temporary Chinese driver license for the riders or drivers.

Cost for the escort car
The rent, fuel, road toll, driver, traffic accident compensation, repairing cost, spare part and parking for the escort car.

Customs deposit of your vehicles
We bear it all for you.

NAVO service charge
Fluent English-speaking tour guide accompany the whole tour;
Tour organization, documents translation, forms making, permits application and other preparation by NAVO;
The accomodations & meals for the guide and driver during the trip.
Local group accident insurance for guests, guide and driver.

Not Included

Accommodations and meals of yourselves
As the guests may have different preferences on accommodations and meals, so it is much more flexible to let the guests to choose where to stay and eat on the journey, so the guests' accommodations & meals are not included in my quote.(normally, it costs you around CNY 300 per day for the Acommodations and meals in China)

All the entrance tickets
You may choose the sights or scenic spots you like, and pay it when you visit;

Your vehilces cost on road
The fuel, road toll, repairing costs, spare part and parking of your own vehicles;

Tips
optional: If guests are satisfied with the tour, we suggest a group give guide tips about 100RMB-200RMB per day;

Personal expense
Drinks, souvenirs, and other personal consumptions.

Visas
NAVO can provide LOI and itineraries for visa application. The have also given me some advice on successfully applying for visa which I will either e-mail or PM to you each.

Meeting Point
I haven't really thought about this yet, does anyone have any suggestions?

Somewhere a few hours drive from the border would be good. Looking at a map At-Bashi, looks like the closest town which is 156k away.

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Hi Kim
Everything sounds great and I would like to confirm my interest in being included in the group to cross starting on the 3 September.
I am leaving New Zealand on the 26 May but I don't believe this will pose any problems as I will be in contact via email.
One question regarding the latest post you have said included in the cost is the customs deposit for my vehicle.
Will I still require to Include China in my carnet document?
Please let me know you require from me regarding personal details,vehicle details,ect and I will forward them to you.
This is a firm YES from me !!!
Regards Stephen
[BSA bob]
PS The LOI and Itinerary plus advice would be appreciated asap as I would like to have most things done before leaving NZ

Now then Kim and all, I'm still all OK with the arrangements and dates.
My plan was to get the Chinease visa in Bishkek a few weeks in advance of the crossing, I'm not on a crazy schedule so will be riding around the stans for about 2 months prior.
For the meetup At-Bashi seems as good as place as any, perhaps in bar the night before?

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Ok kim Phil and me are in , happy to meet At-Bashi day before border crossing looking forward to meeting up . Neil

Good deal and Navo Tours is the best.

I know I'm a bit late for this but...

Solo rider from UK. Suzuki DR 650. Some riding in India and plenty off off road experience. A doctor if that helps.

Might there be a space for me?