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Old 14 Oct 2014
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China Guid Share - KKH - Kyrgyzstan to Pakistan August / September / October 2015

Splitting away from the 2015 - Heading east from Europe, add your itinerary / plans thread to keep things neat, this is a thread to get a group together to cross China late summer early autumn 2015.

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Updated 10/03/15

Currently one or two groups organised leaving on at the start of September.

See from this post onwards for details: click here

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I guess we need to start thinking about picking a date...

My plan was to enter China at the start of September as from my research this would be after the worst of the rain and landslides and before it got too cold. I am happy to push this a little later but not much past the start of October.

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I spoke to NAVO last year and the cost in 2013 for 1 bike on a 5 day itinerary including guides accommodation and transport (not including my own accommodation) would have been £2170

The breakdown was as follows

£500 Supporting Vehicle
£1670 Permit, Guid, Paperwork

Further breakdown of Permit, Guid, Paperwork cost.
Permtis 38 % (permits, provincial permits)
- Custom process 9% (custom process and paperwork at entry and exit ports)
- Cost for vehicles 8% (including the translation, paperwork, vehicle checking, compulsory insurance, temporary vehicle license and plates)
- Cost for drivers 8% (paperwork, photo, translation paperwork, process and temporary driving license)
NAVO's service fee 32-33% (including one guide's salary and all NAVO service from start to the tour ends when you exit China)
Cost for guide 2.5--6% (guide's meal, accommodation)

I have generally read good things about NAVO and they gave me the most detail when I spoke with them last year so I would be happy choosing them.

I think it makes more sense if just one person contacts them for the group, I am happy to do this unless someone else wants to?

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Hi Kim late August early sept good for me .talked to bing at navo seem very professional and says he has people interested in a group around that time. He gave me aprox price of cny 7900 which converts to aprox 1100 Euros for 4 bikes . Sinky
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That is 1100 E per person
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Now then, good idea moving to a separate post. To keep things simple in my head I've been breaking down my route into one month chunks, and I had planned the crossing for the 1st September so that fits perfectly. Also means by the time I make to India the monsoon will hopefully be on the retreat.

Just echoing what you've both said already Bing sent me this.

1. If there are 4 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 7,900 for each rider+bike.
2. If there are 3 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 9,300 for each rider+bike.
3. If there are 2 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 12,000 for each rider+bike.
4. If there are 1 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 18,300 for each rider+bike.

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1. All the paperwork needed for self-riding tour (national & provincial permits)
2. Cost for vehicle (Temporary driving license for vehicle, temporary vehicle number plate and insurance for vehicles.)
3. Cost for drivers ( Temporary driving license for driver)
4. Navo’s service charge ( Include the English-speaking guide, documents translation, tour organization etc.)
5. The rent, road toll, fuel for our escort vehicle.
6. The process fee for Customs clearance when enter/exit China.
7. Travel insurance for all travelers and guide.

Kim I'm quite happy for you to be our contact. My Chinese isn't that good!

All I need now is a bike, I've two weeks off work with intention of getting a DRZ sorted, three absolute belters spotted earlier and all of them sold in the last 24hrs.
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Had exactly the same quote from Bing for 4/5 bikes happy with that but he seems to think he may have others on the hook too happy to let Kim be the contact if he wants to do it.
Looks like we might be moving forward which is great. Now all I need to do is get a grou together to go thru Myanmar in October! talk soon.
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China ??

Hi guys

I am interested in joining you guys for a trip across china. I'm planing on going across Burma in oct, if we get a group together

Would the price get cheaper the more people we have in the group or stay around the 1100E mark ?

Thanks Andrew
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Hi drew we want to cross burm in oct 2015 also looking to form group keep costs down ,we have 2 bikes so far
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KKH

Yep, I'm still keen
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Great 5bikes for China . Who is up for. Burma oct , been in touch with mr tin brightview travel.com . 9day crossing 2 person usd 3405, 4 usd 2049, 6 used 1575 So the more the merrier .
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I think I can remember 4 Mandarin words, not going to be much use...

I will contact NAVO and let them know we are all together.

Sinky57 & LosJuajos can you PM me either the names or email address you used to contact NAVO? Just so they can identify you, I am sure they don't know you as Sinky57 & LosJuajos.

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Sent a PM I think? New to all this.
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Hi Kim did u get pm I sent u
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