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17 Nov 2014
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China Guid Share - KKH - Kyrgyzstan to Pakistan August / September / October ...
Hi guys, just chasing any potential updates on the September KKH crossing (and Burma if there is any). Is there anything I can do to help out?
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18 Nov 2014
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Burma oct 2015
Hi guys just got quote for ten day crossing burma for 6 bikes and rider .10 days, 1500usd pp Will send details if interested. Kim have you any news on China Sinks
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18 Nov 2014
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Hi sinky, definitely interested in details. If you can pass on any info you've got on entry/exit points, rough dates, and any cost breakdowns that might give me an idea of what it'll cost for two people on one bike, that'd be great. Cheers.
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18 Nov 2014
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Welcome to the world's best kept secret, Pakistan.
KKH is pretty but the adjacent valleys like Shamshal and Deosai are even prettier and shouldn't be missed.
Keep us updated a a group of Pakistani bikers might join you.
Cheers
Omar
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21 Nov 2014
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Myanmar Oct 2015
Hi Guys
Info on overland burma - India to Thailand.
Entry at Tamu
exit Myawaddy into Mae Sot Thailand
Based on 6 people/6 bikes and guide/gov official in own vehicle US$ 1500 per person to include
hotels and breakfast
English speaking guide
All entrance fees
NOT INCLUDED
Meals lunch and dinner and drinks
Tips to guide and driver
ROUTE approx 10 days/ 2 star hotels
Kalay – Taung Za Lat Hotel
Monywa – Win Unity Hotel (Superior)
Bagan – Betelnut Hotel (Superior)
Mandalay – Golden Mandalay Hotel (Superior)
Inle – Paradise Hotel (Deluxe Building) ( Paradise Hotel Nyaung Shwe, Hotel In Myanmar )
Taungoo – Mingalar Garden Hotel (Superior)
Golden Rock – Yoe Yoe Lay Hotel ( Yoe Yoe Lay Hotel, Kyaik Hti Yoe, Myanmar )
Myawaddy – Myawaddy Hotel
I need to finalize my China crossing dates before Myanmar date can go firm.
Note to Kim - any news from NAVO re China?
Cheers All.
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21 Nov 2014
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Looks great Sinky! We're keen (2 people, 1 bike) as long as those costs can hold steady, which is dependant on numbers I guess. Same boat as you regarding dates though. We need to start locking down China. Anything I can do to help out with either China or Myanmar bookings?
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22 Nov 2014
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Hi guys, sorry I haven't been on here for a while. I took on a couple of big projects and literally haven't had a day off in a month. I will read over everything tonight when I have a spare moment.
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25 Nov 2014
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Hi Everyone
Sorry again for my absence from this thread, I have had to take on a bit extra work to be able to afford the trip...
So currently we have 8 bikes and 9 people interested
Kim
Benmac
Losjuajos
Sinky57
Philip (Sinky57's mate)
drewafrica
k3nny
taylor-chapman with Natalie (1 Bike)
If every one could make sure I have your name and the name of any one traveling with you, if I could get everyones e-mail as well that would help.
When I last spoke to NAVO we were just just 5 so I will chat to them again and see what they think about group size. If we still have 11 or more people interested next year when we have commit it might be easer to treat it as two groups.
I asked NAVO about the process and payment and these are the steps.
1. Agree the number of riders, route and cost.
We could do this any time but I suggest we don't do this till May to allow for dropouts or late comers
2. Booking and 50% of cost
May 2015
3. 50% Balance
August 2015
I will contact NAVO about group size
If any one else in interested please post here and PM me with name and email.
Thanks
Kim
Last edited by kim; 5 Dec 2014 at 10:56.
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26 Nov 2014
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I have heard back from NAVO regarding group size.
While they don't have a limit, they do recommend not going much larger than 4 bikes due to the time required sorting out registration and licensing of the bikes. However they have said they would be willing to do a large group.
One consideration is that it doesn't get any cheaper after 4 bikes, by that point the majority of the cost is licensing and registration, the guide cost in nominal.
Personally I think traveling in smaller groups is preferable as it is easer to keep together and any brake downs or flats don't effect so many people.
I am going to arrange a trip entering China on the 3rd of September with NAVO, anyone is welcome to join this group. However if any of you would rather enter China in August or later September then maybe we could look as a second group.
If people could let me know there preference for late August / early September / mid September we can get an idea of numbers.
Please also note that the costs we have been given are for 2014, the costs for 2015 will likely change a bit.
Anyone traveling two up the cost of a second rider is about £230, a passenger is about £110. If you are riding two up please let me know if the second person is a second rider or just a passenger.
It might also be worth pointing out that the cost is for the Paperwork (Driving Licence, Vehicle Regestration), Guid and their vehicle. We have to pay for hotels (our choice) & food for our selves, the guid and driver. As well and our own fuel and tolls.
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27 Nov 2014
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Kkh 2051
Hi Kim 3 September ok with us would be very happy to join you ,costs and group size ok also ,let me know if you need any info or help . Sinky
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27 Nov 2014
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Kyrgyzstan-China-Pakistan KKH
Hello everybody, We are two spanish people who also want to share the cost through China to reach to pakistan. From Samarcanda we willl drive through Pamir plateau and arrive at Sary Tash (Kyrgyzstan) around the 10th and 15th of July of 2015. You could contact us by this forum or to our email address: jea@ekidazu.com.
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27 Nov 2014
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Hi kim, yep September 3 suits us nicely too. We're just 1 rider, 1 passenger. Cheers.
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28 Nov 2014
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3rd September is good for me!
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29 Nov 2014
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Cheers for sorting this out so far Kim, 3rd September still works for me. Give me a shout if you need any help.
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2 Dec 2014
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Kyrgystan – China - Pakistan (middle/end) September 2015
Hello Kim!
At first: Thank you very much for your effort to connect all the people here in the HUBB who wants to go through china in 2015. That is absolut great. Thanks for that!
My name is Christian Vogel. I am 33 years old and live in Diemelstadt, which is a little city in the North of Hessen.
My trip on two wheels will start on May 19, 2015 in Orlando (USA) and should then goes as follows: Canada – Alaska – USA – Russia – Mongolia – Russia - Kazakhstan – Tadzhikistan – Kyrgystan – China - Pakistan – India – Iran – Turkey – Bulgaria – Slovenia – Czech Republic and then back to Germany.
So now I search for a group to travel through China (KKH) preferably in the middle/at the end of September 2015 - to share the costs and so on?
For the last group I am too late now. But maybe we could establish a new one?!
May pricate E-Mail-Adress is: info@vogelsperspektive.de
Best Greetings from Germany,
Christian
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