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I am curious how many Migrants are those of you in the EU actually Seeing?
A close friend in Slovania was up in arms over all this (usually a very level headed engineer, I know the two do not go hand in hand) but a few months later he has never seen a single refugee. How much is the usual Media bait and switch?
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Hey SOW,
if you want to come on over to the Old Continent, I will give you a tour of the refugee camps in my AO. Our small town of 5000 currently houses 140 "refugees", with a new building for 90 persons in the works. Plus another 60 persons will be housed in an industrial building. Next small town: 120 fortuneseekers/refugees housed in two heated tents. The town I am working in currently houses about 300 persons and the list goes on and on.
I was told buying weed has gotten considerably easier since the Gambians arrived on the scene. But that must be a lie. They probably just like hanging out at the local schools to socialize ... but being black they certainly stick out like a sore thumb.
Germanys biggest problem is not the migrant issue. We have a huge problem with Angela Merkel and her ilk.
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Hey SOW,
if you want to come on over to the Old Continent, I will give you a tour of the refugee camps in my AO. Our small town of 5000 currently houses 140 "refugees", with a new building for 90 persons in the works. Plus another 60 persons will be housed in an industrial building. Next small town: 120 fortuneseekers/refugees housed in two heated tents. The town I am working in currently houses about 300 persons and the list goes on and on.
I was told buying weed has gotten considerably easier since the Gambians arrived on the scene. But that must be a lie. They probably just like hanging out at the local schools to socialize ... but being black they certainly stick out like a sore thumb.
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Wow? A wopping 140? how on earth do you cope?
it must be terribly stressful to have to look out your window and see people living in a "Camp" who lost everything after it was blown to shit.
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Germanys biggest problem is not the migrant issue. We have a huge problem with Angela Merkel and her ilk.
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Which is?
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Wow? A wopping 140? how on earth do you cope?
it must be terribly stressful to have to look out your window and see people living in a "Camp" who lost everything after it was blown to shit.
Which is?
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The point was that I was telling you that fortune seekers / "refugees" are everywhere to be seen.
They mostly did lose everything in the sense that they sold everything to pay people smugglers to bring them into the EU, especially after Angela opened the door into Germany. Against current law, BTW.
If it is of interest to you, Iraqi migrants are already flying back by the hundreds every day because Germany did not meet their expectations.
Why chancelorette Merkel is currently the most despised of woman in Germany you can find out yourself.
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The point was that I was telling you that fortune seekers / "refugees" are everywhere to be seen.
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Is that what you call people who have lost everything, fortune seekers? LOL
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They mostly did lose everything in the sense that they sold everything to pay people smugglers to bring them into the EU, especially after Angela opened the door into Germany. Against current law, BTW.
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That is what anyone with the IQ above cannon fodder would do, try to find safety in a country which has an economy. You know kind of like all those migrants who left Europe, trying to escape the endless war and poverty for America
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If it is of interest to you, Iraqi migrants are already flying back by the hundreds every day because Germany did not meet their expectations.
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You mean because you treated them so Paltry they realized their only chance at a future was going back, or is it because Iraq has one of the worlds fastest growing economies?
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Why chancelorette Merkel is currently the most despised of woman in Germany you can find out yourself.
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Might want to start reading some legitimate news sources and put down Mien Kampf, shame to see the rise of the Riech all over again.
I guess if the US had a crystal ball, they would not have rebuilt a society that had did so much evil, seeing as though the future looked to repeat.
Your welcome BTW
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Is that what you call people who have lost everything, fortune seekers? LOL
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That is what anyone with the IQ above cannon fodder would do, try to find safety in a country which has an economy. You know kind of like all those migrants who left Europe, trying to escape the endless war and poverty for America
You mean because you treated them so Paltry they realized their only chance at a future was going back, or is it because Iraq has one of the worlds fastest growing economies?
Might want to start reading some legitimate news sources and put down Mien Kampf, shame to see the rise of the Riech all over again.
I guess if the US had a crystal ball, they would not have rebuilt a society that had did so much evil, seeing as though the future looked to repeat.
Your welcome BTW
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Wow, that is one big leap of imagination.
I have read Pete3's posts in here more or less since he came to the forum.
Never has he come across in the manner that you imagine.
Quite the contrary actually; much as other German nationals, he loves his country and has posted ride reports to that effect with some excellent photographs and description of his own locality along the way.
Even over the past 48 hours, Frau M has changed her tune mightily, no doubt because she is losing support in Germany.
Time will tell; there are elections coming and the German government is a coalition.
Certainly, there are immense differerences between refugees, migrants, asylum seekers and such terminologies.
There is a strong argument that any nation that allows the best qualiifed and educated of another nation to move on denudes the latter of virtually any possibility of rebuilding itself.
For example, the UK health service doesn't educate and train enough of it's own needs and so it poaches people from just about the whole of the rest of the world.
In addition, the arrival of some 1 Mn immigrants into a single country over such a short period of time, and continuing, is unprecedented.
Again, time will tell how this develops; no one has a clue at present.
ps
i before e doesn't work in the German language.
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Originally Posted by Shrekonwheels
Is that what you call people who have lost everything, fortune seekers? LOL
Attachment 17041
That is what anyone with the IQ above cannon fodder would do, try to find safety in a country which has an economy. You know kind of like all those migrants who left Europe, trying to escape the endless war and poverty for America
You mean because you treated them so Paltry they realized their only chance at a future was going back, or is it because Iraq has one of the worlds fastest growing economies?
Might want to start reading some legitimate news sources and put down Mien Kampf, shame to see the rise of the Riech all over again.
I guess if the US had a crystal ball, they would not have rebuilt a society that had did so much evil, seeing as though the future looked to repeat.
Your welcome BTW
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Hey Shrek and Warden, why don´t you guys relax and take a dump before you start posting on the HUBB? It would improve the quality of your contributions by a far margin.
Call me a Nazi, I don´t give a rat´s a**. You know nothing about me and obviously not one bit about contemporary Germany, too. I might come across as harsh and I agree. I have a fair imagination of what lies ahead for my children and their offspring.
Immigration of non-Europeans has not been a success story in this country, must be because old Adolf is still controlling our minds from this base on the moon. Oh wait, the way I see it, it has not been a success story in other European countries, either.
Hey, that´s probably not PC to say! Hey, and guess what? I freaking don´t care!
Now if you would please excuse me. My feed are itching, must go goose stepping for a while.
Oh and SOW, the German guilt thing is getting really old. If you want to insult me, why don´t you come up with something innovative?
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You might want to wind your neck in a little....................
I liked SOW's post because the current anti immigrant hysteria fuelled by the media is giving strength to the ultra right wing movement across the globe and that is not a good thing for anyone.
You posted moaning about 140 immigrant in you locality, well so what? these people are facing hardships worse than you or me have ever experienced and hopefully will never experience in our lifetimes.
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Interesting stuff ... massive unplanned or forced migrations will have an affect on travelers too. Anyone up on the current numbers flooding out of Syria? In the millions by now I'd expect.
But to steer things more back on topic: Climate and RIDING ... I just received the online free Motorcycle Explorer Magazine, issue 9. Excellent publication, IMO.
Seems you've had some "unseasonal" rain lately in the UK and the editor has commented on it. Sort of relates to the topic here. Find editor Owen's opening article here (page two) :
https://www.joomag.com/magazine/moto...D%3D&ref=email
He said he hasn't seen rain like this "since he was a kid". Just a random rain storm? ... or more to it?
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When you do not allow people to assimilate then they retract, as they do so distrust evolves. By essentially tossing migrants into prison camps and not allowing opportunity you are showing that you are exactly like radical Islam tells them, now what do you think happens from there?
America worked only as a melting pot because there was opportunity, had that opportunity to advance and live not been there, she would have self destructed immediately. With the rise of extremist groups UN America she still might.
Your horrible migrant crisis is what America faces every year, in fact yours is watered down like crazy in comparison.
Now with migrant clampdowns happening as low IQ radical right wingers come unhinged we face economic problems as a result. As they arrest or deport our crops rot, as they rot Tax dollars are lost, as they leave local stores suffer as they lose customers.
Those that stay stick with their own as they do not feel safe, that is where gangs come from, in fact that is how radical groups are born. If I again look at the dark past of Germany we know how bad mustache man came to power under the same basic ideals. I would hope a history lesson on this regard is not needed.
One you have two choices, you can walk to that camp and show some humanity, or you can poke the dog with a stick and see how long it is until that dog bites back.
Btw the US rebuilt Europe and forgave your debt so you could prosper, it worked wonderfully, had we not the problems never would have ended.
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