Some things to consider.

The United States wastes Half of the worlds food, no poor people are not to blame, nor is population the cause of this nonsense which has to end.
Hope the Embed works.
Edit; It did not, what am I doing wrong on Embedding?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aud6n52dJCY

While the current "crisis" of migrants in Europe is viewed as a detriment, It is not. That is the same nonsense we have heard for decades upon decades in the US.

Migrants will boost Europe's economy - Nov. 6, 2015

Clamping down on Immigration in the US hurt us badly, something I also had to change my mind on about 15 years ago, sigh.
Georgia's Harsh Immigration Law Costs Millions in Unharvested Crops - The Atlantic


I am curious how many Migrants are those of you in the EU actually Seeing?
A close friend in Slovania was up in arms over all this (usually a very level headed engineer, I know the two do not go hand in hand) but a few months later he has never seen a single refugee. How much is the usual Media bait and switch?

Am I the only one who finds the US's concern on immigrants highly ironic?

After all it is an nation of immigrants

TBH the same applies to a lot of western nations UK included.

Here's another ------ology discussion on a range of issues that relate to your point, albeit the article deals with other, arguably related, more pressing issues.

Yet another wolf that is chewing at the skids of the sled?
https://aeon.co/essays/why-isis-has-...ing-revolution

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Well as I don't own either a sled or a sledge I've got nothing to fear from wolves

Not entirely sure what you are trying to achieve with posting various blogs or perpetuating an ongoing debate in this thread

The thread remains open and I haven't left the bar

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That particular article addresses a number of issues raised earlier in this thread, including cross references to the National Socialist Party of Germany.

It is very much up to date being written after the recent incident in Paris, thereby dealing with some of the earlier postings about immigration.

When the bar does close, there is this thread also:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...n-2016-a-85019

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The migrants are put everywhere where there is space, be it in empty government buildings, schools, rented accommodation etc. etc.
None in our +/- 5000 inhabitants village yet that I know of but there were talks about putting around 50 persons in a building next to a school. Great, so the migrant kids get to go there too ? No, they were planning to put 50 grown men in there. Girls have been attacked and raped by similar groups in a village in Holland not far from here.
I'm fine with migrants, worked with a good number of them personally and I can't think of a bad thing to say about them either ! People from Brazil, Portugal, Turkey, Morocco, Afghanistan etc.
All people eager to make an honest living for them and their family and as far as I'm concerned they are welcome to do so. Unfortunately there are companies who will hire them for lower wages than they'd pay a native. So what happens: The natives get upset as "they take our jobs!" a cry echoed by the right wing parties who blame everybody for everything but come up with propaganda and not a single solution in sight.

Anyway, on with the topic in hand !
Have read through this about Co2 and Permafrost
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Yes and because no cheap flats are available for Germans in Germany anymore. The Government pays more for Immigrants then working single mothers or students can afford.

But to be fair, The German population is declining so immigrants are welcome as someone has to pay into the pension funds.
There are also more one-person households in Germany now than ever before which also takes up a lot of housing.
The economy is doing better than every other European nation so they'll have jobs, spend money, pay taxes which in turn pays off the houses that are now created for them.

Hey SOW,

if you want to come on over to the Old Continent, I will give you a tour of the refugee camps in my AO. Our small town of 5000 currently houses 140 "refugees", with a new building for 90 persons in the works. Plus another 60 persons will be housed in an industrial building. Next small town: 120 fortuneseekers/refugees housed in two heated tents. The town I am working in currently houses about 300 persons and the list goes on and on.

I was told buying weed has gotten considerably easier since the Gambians arrived on the scene. But that must be a lie. They probably just like hanging out at the local schools to socialize ... but being black they certainly stick out like a sore thumb.

Germanys biggest problem is not the migrant issue. We have a huge problem with Angela Merkel and her ilk.

Wow? A wopping 140? how on earth do you cope?
it must be terribly stressful to have to look out your window and see people living in a "Camp" who lost everything after it was blown to shit.
Which is?

The point was that I was telling you that fortune seekers / "refugees" are everywhere to be seen.

They mostly did lose everything in the sense that they sold everything to pay people smugglers to bring them into the EU, especially after Angela opened the door into Germany. Against current law, BTW.

If it is of interest to you, Iraqi migrants are already flying back by the hundreds every day because Germany did not meet their expectations.

Why chancelorette Merkel is currently the most despised of woman in Germany you can find out yourself.

Is that what you call people who have lost everything, fortune seekers? LOL

That is what anyone with the IQ above cannon fodder would do, try to find safety in a country which has an economy. You know kind of like all those migrants who left Europe, trying to escape the endless war and poverty for America
You mean because you treated them so Paltry they realized their only chance at a future was going back, or is it because Iraq has one of the worlds fastest growing economies?


Might want to start reading some legitimate news sources and put down Mien Kampf, shame to see the rise of the Riech all over again.

I guess if the US had a crystal ball, they would not have rebuilt a society that had did so much evil, seeing as though the future looked to repeat.
Your welcome BTW

Wow, that is one big leap of imagination.

I have read Pete3's posts in here more or less since he came to the forum.
Never has he come across in the manner that you imagine.
Quite the contrary actually; much as other German nationals, he loves his country and has posted ride reports to that effect with some excellent photographs and description of his own locality along the way.

Even over the past 48 hours, Frau M has changed her tune mightily, no doubt because she is losing support in Germany.
Time will tell; there are elections coming and the German government is a coalition.

Certainly, there are immense differerences between refugees, migrants, asylum seekers and such terminologies.
There is a strong argument that any nation that allows the best qualiifed and educated of another nation to move on denudes the latter of virtually any possibility of rebuilding itself.
For example, the UK health service doesn't educate and train enough of it's own needs and so it poaches people from just about the whole of the rest of the world.

In addition, the arrival of some 1 Mn immigrants into a single country over such a short period of time, and continuing, is unprecedented.
Again, time will tell how this develops; no one has a clue at present.

ps
i before e doesn't work in the German language.

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Hey Shrek and Warden, why don´t you guys relax and take a dump before you start posting on the HUBB? It would improve the quality of your contributions by a far margin.

Call me a Nazi, I don´t give a rat´s a**. You know nothing about me and obviously not one bit about contemporary Germany, too. I might come across as harsh and I agree. I have a fair imagination of what lies ahead for my children and their offspring.

Immigration of non-Europeans has not been a success story in this country, must be because old Adolf is still controlling our minds from this base on the moon. Oh wait, the way I see it, it has not been a success story in other European countries, either.

Hey, that´s probably not PC to say! Hey, and guess what? I freaking don´t care!

Now if you would please excuse me. My feed are itching, must go goose stepping for a while.

Oh and SOW, the German guilt thing is getting really old. If you want to insult me, why don´t you come up with something innovative?

You might want to wind your neck in a little....................

I liked SOW's post because the current anti immigrant hysteria fuelled by the media is giving strength to the ultra right wing movement across the globe and that is not a good thing for anyone.

You posted moaning about 140 immigrant in you locality, well so what? these people are facing hardships worse than you or me have ever experienced and hopefully will never experience in our lifetimes.