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Hello everyone,

I'm preparing for my first international motorcycle trip: a 1-month trek through Chile and (time-permitting) some of Argentina. Rather than shipping my own motorcycle, I plan on purchasing and a bike in Iquique and selling it at the trip's end. Since all things bike-related are the biggest wild card for the trip, I'd like to glean from the collective wisdom and experience here regarding buying, registering and selling a bike. Specifically,
  • Tips on the buying, selling, registering process? (e.g. how?)
  • How much time should I expect the registration process to take? Hours? Days?
  • Recommendations on places to find a bike (Iquique-specific, online resources, etc.)?
  • War stories?
  • Other tips & tricks?
  • I understand that one doesn't need a Carnet for S. America. Is this correct?
  • Relevant rules & regs for selling the bike in Chile vs. Argentina?
I apologize if this is already floating out there in the HUBB but I could only find info pertaining to riders' personal bikes shipped into the country.

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Hi, Im Roberto, Im Chilean

1st, you don't need a carnet for Chile or Argentina or any other country in America.

2nd, If you will buy the bike in Iquique, you will have some problems... because Iquique is like a DutyFree port or something like that, the prices are cheapper, but with the vehicles there are special laws. If you buy a vehicle in Iquique, it must stay there, in the region, because they don't let you have a "zona franca" vehicle outside the "zona franca". the only people that can do that are the people who lived in Iquique for at least 5 years. Other people can buy vehicles too but the have to return to Iquique every 3 or 4 month (I don't rember exactly) to check with the autorities that the vehicle is staying in the zone. Not even we who live in Santiago can buy vehicles in Iquique.


the prices of the bikes in Iquique are lower, like a 20% lower, but there not to many bikes to buy. here in Santiago you will find a better "catalog". for example, a DR650 1996 you can find it for like US$3000.

The registration procces is very fast. you need to go to a "registro civil" with the owner and make a "contract". you can do this directly on the registro civil (some minutes slower, but cheaper, and you get the first papers to your name inmediatly) or you can do it on a "Notaria" (more expensive, and you will get your papers later). IF you do this paperwork on a big Registro civil office, some times they give you all the papers done at the same moment, if is a small office, they send it to your place of stay, and takes like 2 weeks.

the final paper, that says that you are the owner is the "padrón"

to do all this paperwork fast and with no problems, the bike must to have some papers on rule:

-obligatory insurance
-permit of circulation
-technic revision

all this has to be on rule, not necesarly on your name, only the "padrón" is in your name

all the process, will cost like 50-100 bucks if the bikes is relatively cheap

just come down here and I can help you, is relativelly easy and fast! I will glad to help you, Im a adventure biker too

cheers!!!

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Muchas gracias, Roberto! Tu ingles huele bien ;-) Escribire en ingles para que los otros puedan entender (y porque mi espanol no huele tan bien).

Santiago does sound like a much better option for bike buying but my hope was to buy a bike in the northern part of the country and then ride down. Do you think I'd have better luck finding a bike in Antofagasta or maybe Arica? Both seem to be bigger than Iquique from a population-wise.

So, just to clarify, since I'd need to take care of all the paperwork within a day or two my best bet is to go with the owner to a registro civil, correct? If they don't give me the required paperwork right away, will they give me a temporary padron or something allowing me to prove the bike is mine until I receive the padron? I ask just because I can't wait several weeks for the official padron and am hoping I could then travel with the temporary padron.

Also, what exactly do you mean by "on rule"? Are the three things you mentioned typically already in place under the current owner's name? If so, do I just need to be sure to get these documents from the owner?

Thanks again!
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Muchas gracias, Roberto! Tu ingles huele bien ;-) Escribire en ingles para que los otros puedan entender (y porque mi espanol no huele tan bien).

Santiago does sound like a much better option for bike buying but my hope was to buy a bike in the northern part of the country and then ride down. Do you think I'd have better luck finding a bike in Antofagasta or maybe Arica? Both seem to be bigger than Iquique from a population-wise.

So, just to clarify, since I'd need to take care of all the paperwork within a day or two my best bet is to go with the owner to a registro civil, correct? If they don't give me the required paperwork right away, will they give me a temporary padron or something allowing me to prove the bike is mine until I receive the padron? I ask just because I can't wait several weeks for the official padron and am hoping I could then travel with the temporary padron.

Also, what exactly do you mean by "on rule"? Are the three things you mentioned typically already in place under the current owner's name? If so, do I just need to be sure to get these documents from the owner?

Thanks again!

Iquique is bigger than Arica, more interesting for me too. Antofagasta is like Iquique. the 3 cities are state capitals, so I think you can find big "registros civiles"... but I'm not shure if you can get the padron the same day. I do that only once here in Santiago, but I can check that.

Yes, to do it you MUST go with the owner, and if the paperwork takes longer, they give you a paper like a temporary padron, but I'm not shure if you can leave Chile by bike with that paper, but I think so.

the only paper that confirms you like the real and present owner is the padron, the other papers (circulation permit, obligatory ensurance and tecnical revission) must be on rule (I don't know how is in english, the papers must be from this year, you have to actualice it yearly... you understand me?)

several bikes around here have papers problems, some have only the padron, but they are not street legal

when you will arrive here?, for how many time?, where do you from?
maybe we can find the way to buy you the bike around here, the 75% of the bikes are in santiago only, the market is giant here compared with other regions. how much will be your budget for the bike?

I can help you if yo need, cheers!
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Hi Roberto,

As I was browsing through some posts I came across this one and your thoughts on getting a bike in Santiago. Although nothing is definite I think I will probably be heading that way with the aim of picking a bike up in Santiago. I just wanted to ask whether I do and I have a look around whether I could get in touch with you for some more advice? I`m looking for a bike that I can continue my journey through South America on.

Ciao for now,

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Roberto, I have been looking around for a place in SA to buy a Honda CG 150 JOB. I see that they sell them in Chile, now my question is, can I buy one(new), and have it registered in my name as a tourist and get full papers? If so, what would be the new list price? I hope I'm not asking too much. Thanks in advance.
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Heading from Antofagasta to Santiago (bikeless)

Hi Roberto,

Sorry for not responding; it looks like I never got an email noticing saying that you had replied. I´m in Antofagasta now and will be heading down to Santiago because I´ve had absolutely no luck finding a suitable bike. Could I still take you up on your offer for help? I´m taking a bus through the night and will arrive in the city tomorrow morning at 10. I understand that it´s very short notice, but any help you could give would be greatly appreciated.

Because I´ve lost a bit of time trying to find something up here, I think I´ll have to just buy a smaller, new bike or hopefully find a decent used one at a dealer rather than shop around for used ones.

If you´re available, please feel free to email me at timyarb@gmail.com or, preferably, call me at 78392856. I´ll be on a bus for the rest of the day and will have plenty of time to talk

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Hi Roberto,

As I was browsing through some posts I came across this one and your thoughts on getting a bike in Santiago. Although nothing is definite I think I will probably be heading that way with the aim of picking a bike up in Santiago. I just wanted to ask whether I do and I have a look around whether I could get in touch with you for some more advice? I`m looking for a bike that I can continue my journey through South America on.

Ciao for now,

Kelvin


Of course I can help you, you can email me (zaplaje@hotmail.com) or PM me with any questions... I will glad!!!
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Roberto, I have been looking around for a place in SA to buy a Honda CG 150 JOB. I see that they sell them in Chile, now my question is, can I buy one(new), and have it registered in my name as a tourist and get full papers? If so, what would be the new list price? I hope I'm not asking too much. Thanks in advance.
Hi!!!

the CG 150 is very popular around here... pizza deliveres and mailmen uses it all the time... I learned to drive motorcycles on a CG!

the price is like $1500 USD or less.

I talked with a guy how came from the US and bought a bike (honda hero passion 100cc) and he regitered in his name.

if you have any doubts just contact me by PM or zaplaje@hotmail.com
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TIMYARB, It might be helpful to have information regarding a foreign tourist buying a new or used motorcycle in Argentina.

Others have posted here information regarding buying in Chile.

The following pertains to buying a new or used motorcycle legally registered in Argentina with an Argentine license plate.

Please note, the following is not relevant for motorcycle sales, from one foreign tourist to another foreign tourist, if the bike is registered in a foreign country (USA, EU, Britain, any other South or Central American country.)

Yes as a "foreign tourist" you can legally buy and register a new or used motorcycle that is already registered in Argentina, or if you buy new, will be registered in Argentina in your name.

Elisa and I have purchased 3 new motorcycles in Argentina, the first two we puchased while we were foreign tourists visiting Argentina, and the last one after we secured our Argentine permanent foreign residence status. (DNI)

And, Yes, you can legally sell your Argentine registered motorcycle in Argentina. Selling in any other country would be a long expensive process and generally not worth the effort.

Buying new is easier and less risky than buying used. To buy a new or used motorcycle in Argentina as a foreign tourist.

Here is an overview of what you will need to do:

Secure a "domocillio" certificate issued by LOCAL Argentine police, you must go to the police station assigned to protect your neighborhood, (your hotel etc) in Argentina.

1. The domocillio costs about 10 pesos ($3 US) and is obtained by providing the police your ID (passport) or DNI and address. The next day, a police officer will hand deliver the stamped document to your residence, where you are staying in Argentina, pension, with a friend etc.

2. Take your passport. and domocillio to your assigned AFIP office, you will have to find out which office pertains to your residence address, and get a CDI which is a tax number for foreigners , not working in Argentina. This will take about 2 hours, faster if you go early. Cost approximately 10 argentine peso.

3. Investigate auto insurance, so after you purchase and your "Gestor" (one who transfers vehicle titles as a business) does the paperwork you can give the Vehicle ID and plate # to the insurance agency and you will be immediate covered, so you can drive your bike home. DO NOT RIDE WITHOUT INSURANCE!

A foreign tourist can purchase a new or used motorcycle registered in Argentina, but legally and officially a foreign tourist cannot export, (cross the border) of Argentina with his/her Argentine registered bike. Other South American countries have similar regulations. In rare cases, a temporary TEMPORARY VEHICLE EXPORT PERMIT is issued and some borders are more attentive than others, to stopping foreign tourists from leaving Argentina with their legally purchased and registered Argentine motorcycle. I am currently working to have the law that restricts the travel of a foreign tourist riding his/her Argentine registered motorcycle reviewed and changed. You can help. Please see the last posts on my thread:

Buy new or used in Argentina and legally tour all of South America ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page) located and with a sticky, this regional forum.

As you will learn there is a way a foreign tourist can cross out of Argentina with his/her Argentine registered motorcycle, and that is to co-own the motorcycle with an Argentine or a permanent foreign resident of Argentina who has a DNI (National Identification Document) and lives in Argentina).

The Argentine or permanent foreign resident will have to accompany you to the border of Argentina, and "perhaps" secure a temporary export permit.

If you are buying used here are the documents the seller must provide:

It is wise to employ a GESTOR (one who transfers vehicle titles as a business) to assist you. Reputable GESTORS are available in Buenos Aires. They are well worth the money, and can speed the process of transferring the title to your name. if you buy new, the dealer will provide the GESTOR, the costs will be included in the final price of the new or used bike you purchase from a dealer.

Here is the list of documents needed from the owner of a used motorcycle.

1. Título de propiedad original: (Title)

2. Cédula verde original: (Green card, registration)

3. Formulario 08 o Contrato de Transferencia, firmado por el vendedor y, si es que el titular figura como casado en el titulo, entonces tambien por el cónyuge. Esta/s firmas certificadas por el Registro de Motovehiculos (aquel donde esta el legajo de la moto) o escribano publico: (No traslation for this but owner will know...it is a form to be signed.)

4. Verificacion Policial: ( Police check up for possible theft charges)

5. Informe de Dominio: (To check that the seller can legally sell the bike )

6. Estado de Deuda de Patentes, o libre deuda de Patentes: (Taxes up to date)

8. Libre deuda de Infracciones del Tránsito: ( No tickets or stolen vehicle reports)


Do not leave a deposit "reserva" for the used bike unless you have a physical copy of each of these documents in hand , or are absolutely convinced missing documents are available and will be provided.

You can have the owner sign an agreement to legally sell the bike to you within the next week or return your deposit. The deposit should be no more than $20.00 US dollars.

As I have indicated on other threads, a foreign tourist can legally buy and sell a new or used moto or auto in Argentina, but can be very risky.

We are doing our best to eliminate any risk involved.

The goal here is to mark the path for those foreign tourists who want to fly to Buenos Aires, buy a new or used moto or auto, register it legally, buy appropriate insurance, tour other South America countries and then return to Argentina to sell or store the moto or auto. And, to do this as legally and as economically as possible.

We are testing the system today and tomorrow. Please post questions, comments and personal experiences on this thread.

There is an excellent description of buying a used motorcycle in Chile posted by lachy and found in this regional forum under:

"Steps to Buying a Used Bike in Santiago Chile"

There was some confusion pertaining to if a foreign tourist can legally exit Chile with his/her motorcycle legally purchased and registered in Chile. See thread directly above for more info....

A very similar post regarding buying used in Chile is found on my thread and and posted originally by jolaglabek.

I have noted that recently many posts regarding foreign tourists purchasing motorcycles regestered in Chile have appeared. These are well worth reading.

I will leave it to others to respond to you regarding buying motorcycles in other South American countries.

Hope this helps and might I use your screen name to help convince Argentine legislature to change the law restricting the travel of foreign tourists on their Argentine registered motorcycles?

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Perhaps those visiting this thread might wonder about the possibilities of selling a foreign registered (USA/EU/etc.) motorcycle to another foreign tourist in Chile? This might be very interesting to foreign tourists considering buying a used foreign registered (USA, EU, Britain etc) motorcycle from another foreign tourist in Chile.

I penned the following fictionalized story for another thread, and believe the information is valuable enough to be presented again here:

The topic here is, and I may be wrong, for I do have a propensity for staying off topic, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A UNITED STATES registered motorcycle title to be legally transferred, if the motorcycle is in Chile or Argentina and the seller is a foreign tourist and the buyer is also a foreign tourist and both seller and buyer are in Chile or Argentina.

In the majority of States I researched, the "foreign" owner simply signs the back of the title or signs a specified title transfer form provided by the State where the motorcycle is registered, and here is the catch, in every State I researched....the seller's signature must be notarized by a certified notary of the State that issued the title, or be notarized by a certified notary of the State where the motorcycle is to be registered. Whoa cowboys and cowgirls, not so fast!

Example: PART ONE Sam, Joe and Barbara

Foreign motor tourist Sam has a beautiful BMW, purchased and paid for in Arizona, that he rode to Panama, and then had it flown to Santiago, Chile. He had planned to continue his tour of South American countries, but the collapse of the US economy precluded him having expected profits from the gradual sale of his stock portfolio and he found himself destitute, until he could get back to California and earn some money.

Destitute foreign motor tourist Sam meets wealthy foreign tourist Joe at an Ex Pat bar in Santiago. Sam, over a few s explains his troubles to his new friend Joe. Joe considers the matter and says "Sam, why don't you sell your BMW to me?"

Not wealthy by luck nor family fortune, but by his own intelligence and hard work, Joe begins considering the effort involved in transferring the BMW's Arizona title into his name, no, wait, he does not want an Arizona title, he wants to register the BMW in Colorado, where he lives most of the year.

"Ok, let's see the title , says Joe." He notices there are no liens (loans) on the bike and that indeed on reverse of the title are instructions for title transfer. Seems simple enough, Sam just needs to sign the BMW's Arizona title on the space provided and indicate the milage on the odometer, but wait, oh no, Sam's must sign in the presence of a State certified Notary Public.

Joe immediately considers the possibility of finding an Arizona certified Notary Public somewhere in Santiago, Chile, for he knows the State of Arizona will not release the Arizona title of the BMW unless Sam's signature was witnessed by a Notary Public.

Just by chance, slightly tipsy, but very attractive foreign tourist Barbara, had eyed handsome Joe through the front window of the bar as he backed in and dismounted his big BMW. She also noted that the BMW sported the familiar desert brown Arizona plate, and she was from Phoenix, Arizona.

Joe noticed Barbara eyeing Sam, before Joe even knew Barbara existed, and not one to miss an opportunity, even for a friend, Joe motioned the waiter to invite Barbara to his table for a drink. Barbara accepted the offer and immediately proclaimed to Joe and Sam, I am from Arizona too.

Joe, said "right, and I suppose you are a certified Notary Public as well." Barbara, a little taken back said, why yes, I work for a bank in Phoenix and I have my Notary stamp right here in my purse. To the astonishment of Joe and Sam, Barbara was a certified Notary Public of the State of Arizona.

The BMW is the last topic on Barbara's mind and Joe has an early business meeting, so Joe excuses himself, but not before inviting Sam and Barbara to dinner the following evening... and, now alone, Sam and Barbara begin by talking all things Arizona, then all about Joe's journey, the economy and about anything else that comes up, until the sun does come up.

When alone in his hotel room, Joe says to himself, "OK, I am in Chile. I am considering buying an expensive BMW that Sam had flown in from Panama. OK, customs here will have Sam listed on the temporary vehicle import permit, I will, have a notarized Arizona title with Sam's notarized signature indicating he has sold the BMW to me, and I suppose Sam will fly back to Arizona, maybe with Barbara and get back to work."

"I would like to ride the BMW immediately, but according to the temporary import permit issued by Chile, I am not authorized to ride it in Chile nor am I the owner of the BMW. What to do? What to do?"

"No, Sam would have to exit the bike from Chile. Of course I (Joe) would pay the air freight, to Colorado, but no, the bike will be registered in Sam's name when Denver customs clears the BMW from the airline, Sam would have to clear customs with the bike.

"This is becoming complicated! Perhaps I should reconsider my offer to buy Sam's BMW."

End PART ONE

Here are the original questions, found at the beginning of this thread that I am answering.

"How easy will it be to sell my bike down there? (South America)
What is the precedure for transfereing the tittle if it's US registered?
In the Central American countries there is such a high import tax you couldn't even give the bike away what about Argentina/Chile?"

PART TWO: SAM, JOE and BARBARA

Joe had selected a Chilean restaurant for the previous night's dinner invitation to the two Arizonans, Sam and Barbara . Joe was personal friends with the owner of the restaurant, who was also an attorney and worked as a criminal defense lawyer in Santiago.

When Joe arrived at the restaurant, Sam and Barbara were standing, helmets in hand, near the big BMW parked at the curb. Joe said, " I see you made it OK," looked at the bike and opened the restaurant door. All three were welcomed in and seated by Jose Luis, the owner of the restaurant.

Sam appeared a little stressed that the subject of Joe buying the BMW did not come up during dinner and finally asked, "were you serious when you offered to buy my bike?" Without losing a beat, Joe's auto response was, "guess it depends on how much it will cost me?"

Sam relaxed a little and honestly stated, the bike is equipped for touring and would sell easily in the States for $15,000 US, and here I have seen the same bike, not equipped for touring, for sale for $20,000 US.

"Wow, why the big difference?" Joe knew, but asked to find out how much Sam knew about selling a US registered bike in Chile. "Has something to do with an import tax imposed on foreign bikes, before they can be registered and then sold in Chile. I think" was Sam's honest answer.

"But!" Sam quickly added, "that has nothing to do with you buying my bike, because you don't intend on registering it in Chile, do you??? "No" if I buy it I plan to fly it to Colorado, that is if the price is right." "So?" "How much will she cost me?"

"Ok" we don't want to do anything illegal here, right?" "Right!" They both agree.

"How about $10,000 dollars, cash?" "And, you ride it to Colorado." Now, Joe was caught a bit off guard, he had not considered the possibility of riding from Chile to Colorado, and it sounded like a damn good idea. After all, his venture in Chile had been very profitable and for ten years he has wanted a real vacation....

"What a great idea. I buy your bike, then during the next 6 months I ride South and then Central America and on up to Colorado. I would love to do that. I had a Harley when I was younger."

"Is it possible?" asks Joe... "Of Course!" replies Sam, I have just finished a ride from Arizona to Panama, flew the bike here to Santiago, no problems." "I had planned to continue on to Argentina and several more South American Countries, but, you know the story." "Yeah, Yeah, tough luck, OK I'll give you $8,000.00 for the bike, if Barbara will notarize your signature on the back of the Arizona title, and she will confirm that with this title, once I reach Colorado, I will be able to register the bike in Colorado in my name."

Surprisingly quiet Barbara, now proclaims, "Yes Joe, with Sam's signature, and his Arizona drivers license number and US passport number as identification, I will notarize his signature, on the reverse of the Arizona title, as seller of the BMW to you." "This will, make the bike legally yours.... in Arizona, that is and you will be free to have this title transferred to a Colorado title in your name, according to the laws and regulations of Colorado." "I will also notarize your signature, on the back of the arizona title, as buyer, this is also required, so that Sam is released from any potential liability occurring in Arizona."

As an after thought, and looking directly at Joe, Babara adds.... "Sam gave me a ride, to the restaurant that is, and I can also attest that his bike runs great."

The following conversation goes like this.... "Wait, only $8,000.00?" I said $10,000.00." "Yes, I know but my offer is $8,000.00, take it or leave it."

After a moment of silence, Joe adds, look, I am at risk here... I have no idea how I am going to buy insurance, cross borders etc. etc. This is going to be a risky adventure for me, and I am offering, in part, to help you in a time of need." "Take it or leave it."

"OK, I'll take it, but you are getting a hell of a deal!"

END PART TWO

PART THREE: SAM, JOE AND BARBARA

Once Sam agreed to accept Joe's offer, they both relaxed ... and Joe began to feel the slow rush of adrenalin that mysteriously begins to course through his body and mind at the beginning of a every new business venture or a big trip, or before sex.

Barbara sensing the moment, wondered silently about the odds defying flow of events that brought the three of them together. Had she not noticed Joe and the Arizona plates on his bike as he parked in front of a bar in Santiago, Chile, this might not be happening. At the bank where she worked in Phoenix, Arizona she had often notarized vehicle title transfers and knew that she was needed. Well, anyway, a certified notary was needed, needed to identify Sam with two forms of signed picture ID, observe him sign as the seller on the back of the BMWs Arizona title, verify his signature against his signatures on the picture IDs and then affix her notary seal and signature. She knew little , and cared less about title transfers beyond notarizing the signature of the seller.

Barbara's attention returned to Joe as he was explaining to Sam the location of the Santiago American Express office where at 11 the next morning, he would give Sam the $8,000 dollars and then, with Barbara as Notary, Sam could sign the back of Arizona title of the BMW as seller.

Joe wanted a closer look at the BMW and needed some time to reflect upon his decision to buy, so he casually mentioned that it was late and he wanted to spend time with his good friend Jose Louis, attorney and owner of the restaurant. Once out of the restaurant Sam swung effortlessly onto the comfortable seat of the bike, and waited until Barbara had put on her helmet and carefully pinioned behind him. Only then did he don his own helmet and touch the starter button. As expected the big BMW purred to life and they were off.

As he headed back to his table, and his laptop, he caught Jose Luis off guard by asking if there was WI-FI.

"Amigo, you think this is some third world country?" "Absolutamente, we have WI FI" "Why?"

"Well, I just want to take a look at the State of Arizona Motor Vehicles web site."

"You going to Arizona?"

"No, no, tomorrow I am going to buy that BMW that those two kids just rode out a here."

"You are going to do WHAT!!!"

"Buy the bike, buy the bike, and then ride it back to Colorado." Haven't you been telling me for years I work too hard and should take a long vacation?"

"Amigo, No sé nada about the Arizona Motor Vehicle regulations but, you buy that Arizona bike in Chile and instead of a vacation you might end up in a very uncomfortable jail cell."

"What?"

"You are on the right track, take a look at the Arizona Department of transportation web site while I close up the restaurant and then we will talk."

The following was copied from:

Arizona Department of Transportation

Soon after loading the ADOT web site, Joe knew he had made a very bad decision.

Seller

When a vehicle is sold (or otherwise transferred) you, the seller, should:

Sign off the back of the title and have your signature notarized.
Give the title to the buyer with any lien release, if applicable.
Complete a sold notice online, or on the back of the vehicle registration.
Remove and retain the license plate, instead of leaving the plate on the vehicle. The plate belongs to you, the vehicle owner not the vehicle. You can later transfer the plate to another vehicle that you register.
Request a refund (see Refunds below). –or–
Transfer the plate credit to another vehicle owned (see Credit For Fees below).

Buyer

Upon sale or transfer of a vehicle, the registration for that vehicle is no longer valid. The buyer must visit any MVD or authorized Third Party office to transfer the plate and register the vehicle.

If it is necessary to drive the vehicle to complete this transaction, the buyer must obtain a Restricted Use 3-Day Permit, for private sales, or a Temporary Registration Plate, for vehicles purchased from a licensed dealer


"Amigo, you learn anything from the web site?"

"Yeah, looks like if I buy the bike, the license plate is not included, and the registration no longer legal until I visit the motor vehicles department and transfer the title."

"What does it say about "INSURANCE?" As your friend and an attorney, I am not going to allow you to ride that bike anywhere with out insurance."

"No problem José Luis, I'll buy insurance here."

"Es possible," " I am sure there are more than one insurance company in Santiago, that will sell you insurance, but the minute you have an accident, damage something, or kill someone with that bike, an attorney representing the insurance company, will look at the copy of the title you submitted and immediately declare that you fraudulently purchased insurance for a bike that you do not hold title to." "You, might be able to buy insurance, but you will have no coverage."

"José Luis, from what I just read.... I might have another "problema." "What license plate number will appear on the insurance card?" "Sam is required to remove the plate." "And, how will I ride from Chile to Colorado without a license plate."

"You won't." "Matter of fact you won't get out of Chile on that bike."

"Why not?"

"Because... when your friend collected his bike from the "aduana" at the airport, he was issued what is called a Temporary Vehicle Import Permit" (TVIP) which clearly states that the "vehicle" or "motorcycle" is not to be sold in Chile, therefore TVIPs are non transferrable." "And, in order to exit Chile you must turn in the TVIP, show the title and possibly submit the bike to an inspection of the vin #, that hopefully, matches the vin # on the title."

"For each border between here and Colorado you cross, you will be required to show title to obtain a TVIP and you might have to prove you have insurance, you might not, but you might." "When you cannot ride further north, you will have to ship or fly the bike to Panama and without a proper title, I doubt any reputable shipper will carry a bike, with a questionable title, as cargo."

"Look Joe, you need to back out of this deal."

"I am to meet those kids at American Express in the morning." I like them both, they just met and this was not a set up. This I know for sure. Perhaps I could lend Sam a couple grand, if he had the money he would ride the bike back to Arizona himself."

"Joe I'll be there for you in the morning, now go get some sleep."

The next morning Joe withdrew $2,000.00 dollars on his American Express card and while he waited in the vip lounge of American Express, he penned an agreement to repay $2,000.00 to be signed by Sam. When José Louis arrived he looked confident, and as was customary he handed his friend Joe a Cuban cigar.

From the vip lounge both men saw Sam and Barbara arrive on the BMW. Barbara took Sam's arm as they approached the upscale building. They burst into the lounge and after Barbara kissed both men on the cheek, she proclaimed, "we have some good news." This obviously positive spin got Joe's attention.

"Tell them Sam." "Gentlemen, it seems as if Barbara was temporarily laid off from the bank in Phoenix, and has unemployment insurance for six months. She, has agreed to finance our trip back to Arizona! She will lend me the money for my share of the expenses, and of course, I provide a ride home for her." "And, she was wise enough to buy a refundable airline ticket."

"Wow, that's good news!" Joe winked at José Luis, and said, you know I like you kids, I am happy for you, a bit envious, but certain you will have a great ride home."

"All of this is so exciting." "I like Sam, and I believe this journey, through foreign lands, is just the way to get to know him better." Can you believe, he is a customer at the bank where I work!" "This was meant to be!"

"Well, you two have many kilometers to ride, be good to each other, and with that Joe began to unwrap the Cuban cigar." As the two friends watched the BMW disappear into traffic and the smoke of 2 Cuban cigars, they remembered why they liked each other.

END PART THREE

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help

I saw your information so am asking you a similar favor

i am ion australia and intend on going to chile then north to peru anmd then further north

option one
i go to chile and buy as bike

option 2

i take my bike from here..dr 650 se


3

i ahve a feiend who has an american registerdd bike in valpariso
i can buy it chaeap and it is in good condition
but how do i trandfer it all over to me with no problems
he is in usa and i just collect the bike
there will be no papers in my name
i can get somne form of sales document

can you please advise me

can we talk direct

gwoodmanagement@optusnet.com.au

regards
gary

your english was good..
is there any problems taking the chile bike out of the country ??







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Hi, Im Roberto, Im Chilean

1st, you don't need a carnet for Chile or Argentina or any other country in America.

2nd, If you will buy the bike in Iquique, you will have some problems... because Iquique is like a DutyFree port or something like that, the prices are cheapper, but with the vehicles there are special laws. If you buy a vehicle in Iquique, it must stay there, in the region, because they don't let you have a "zona franca" vehicle outside the "zona franca". the only people that can do that are the people who lived in Iquique for at least 5 years. Other people can buy vehicles too but the have to return to Iquique every 3 or 4 month (I don't rember exactly) to check with the autorities that the vehicle is staying in the zone. Not even we who live in Santiago can buy vehicles in Iquique.


the prices of the bikes in Iquique are lower, like a 20% lower, but there not to many bikes to buy. here in Santiago you will find a better "catalog". for example, a DR650 1996 you can find it for like US$3000.

The registration procces is very fast. you need to go to a "registro civil" with the owner and make a "contract". you can do this directly on the registro civil (some minutes slower, but cheaper, and you get the first papers to your name inmediatly) or you can do it on a "Notaria" (more expensive, and you will get your papers later). IF you do this paperwork on a big Registro civil office, some times they give you all the papers done at the same moment, if is a small office, they send it to your place of stay, and takes like 2 weeks.

the final paper, that says that you are the owner is the "padrón"

to do all this paperwork fast and with no problems, the bike must to have some papers on rule:

-obligatory insurance
-permit of circulation
-technic revision

all this has to be on rule, not necesarly on your name, only the "padrón" is in your name

all the process, will cost like 50-100 bucks if the bikes is relatively cheap

just come down here and I can help you, is relativelly easy and fast! I will glad to help you, Im a adventure biker too

cheers!!!

pd. sorry for my stinky english!!!
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Hi everybody

I met Timyarb here in Chile... he called me when he are just buying a really bad bike... I saved him

then we try to find something else... we finally find a used KLR650 1993, really cool. We went to see it and talk with the owner and he accept Tim's offer, so yesterday they went to the registro civil and the people in there was on a STRIKE! hahha so they had to go to a notaria. there, they didn't permit Tim to registrate the bike on his name, so he registered the bike in my name, and then we made a paper that allow Tim to go Argentina with the moto.

If he wasn't too hurry, he could go to IMPUESTOS INTERNOS and create a RUT, very fast (the same day), and register the bike in his name.

now Im not too shure if a foreign can just register a vehicle in his name, because the registro civil is in strike right now, may be if Tim and the previous owner did go to the registro civil they could make the registration properlly with out having a rut
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I saw your information so am asking you a similar favor

i am ion australia and intend on going to chile then north to peru anmd then further north

option one
i go to chile and buy as bike

option 2

i take my bike from here..dr 650 se


3

i ahve a feiend who has an american registerdd bike in valpariso
i can buy it chaeap and it is in good condition
but how do i trandfer it all over to me with no problems
he is in usa and i just collect the bike
there will be no papers in my name
i can get somne form of sales document

can you please advise me

can we talk direct

gwoodmanagement@optusnet.com.au

regards
gary

your english was good..
is there any problems taking the chile bike out of the country ??

Hi Gary

you can do the follow things:

1.- Search and find a bike here (I can help you), talk with the owner, go with him to the registro civil and try to regiter it in your name. If you can, you will have a bike and can do what ever you want with it

2.- If you can't register it in your name in the registro civil, you can go to the SERVICIO DE IMPUESTOS INTERNOS and ask for a RUT (like a social security number) and then go to the registro civil with the bike owner and register it to your name

3.- If you need to register the bike after 14:00 you must do the paperwork on a notaria, it's expensiver and all the papers tooks 1 month to get it, but you can demostrate that the bike is yours with another paper that is given by the notaria.

4.- If you don't want to do all that stuff, you can find a person you trust and register the bike in his/her name and he/she must make a permission to let you go out the country with the bike.

5.- Or just come here with your bike (here a DR650 cost new $4.000.000 chilean pesos) (a good used one can be found for $3.000.000)

I hope you can understand me

my email is zaplaje@hotmail.com
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Hi all,

i'm new to this website but i love it already. I saw lots of interesting posts, but as some are a bit old I'd like to ask a few questions in the event things have changed.

I'm planning a motorbike trip across Chile, Argentina and probably Bolivia somewhere next year. I think it's best to buy a bike in Santiago and sell it back to the same place.

I read posts about registrations etc, and i wonder what are my best options to have a smooth and fast buying experience. I was hoping that it would be possible to buy a second hand bike at let's say a BMW shop and sell it back there at the end of the trip. Would thy help speeding up the procedure and ensure all the docs i need will be correct and functional? or is it a crazy idea?

let me know your thoughts thanks a lot
Sergio
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Sergio,
Doing the same with my wife Feb->May 2017.
From what I can gather, the laws changed last year so that you can only get a RUT now (required to purchase a bike there) by having temporary residency or through some sort of Notary (or a friend). I got a RUT on a tourist visa in 2014, but I believe it can no longer be done.
The 2nd problem is selling the bike if you're only there for a few months. Renting bikes seems to have a 1 month cost/benefit before flying your own bike in starts becoming viable (bike dependent of course).
So....could get a temporary resident visa & subsequently a RUT to buy one there, but the higher cost there (than here in Australia) + potential problem in needing to sell there at the end means we're taking our bikes with us. A 3 month permit for the bikes + a 3 month extension if needed seems to be the go. Longer than that, they can be stored in Argentina and brought back to Chile later - if that's a consideration.
I'd be happy to hear options with a simpler (and cheaper) solution !
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