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You mentioned it won't matter 'what plate' the trailer or bike has ?

I do need to clarify exactly what you mean by 'what plate' ? ..,
because .., If I buy the trailer In the U.S - then It will not have a licence plate mounted to the trailer of any sort .., as I will not be able to register that trailer (that I plan to purchase) in the US - because I am not a U.S Resident ?
In your original post you mentioned something about a bike with a "foreign" plate towing a trailer and was it legal. You CAN register that trailer in your name in most US states. (remember, in USA every state is different but most do NOT restrict a foreigner from registering a vehicle or trailer in their name.

But most states will NOT allow you to register your Australian originated KTM here in USA. Against US EPA laws ... the Trump and company are doing their best to dismantle. But you can ride INDEFINITELY around on your Oz bike no problem.

But once you are approved in the state where you bought the trailer, either with a plate or without ... all other states will honor this status and you shouldn't have any problems. But to clarify ... I've never done this. But you being Australian should have NO bearing on anything. If you need an address ... use selling dealer address.

Insurance is a whole other problem and I am NOT a lawyer. I have no idea about insurance. My advice is to buy insurance locally knowing that NO USA insurance is valid outside of USA. In Latin America you buy insurance as you go, at the border. Country by country.

Most MC trailers I've seen DO NOT have a license plate. Probably has something to do with number of axles or perhaps weight?? ... because MOST travel trailers you see DO have a separate license plate and owners have to pay registration annually, just like car or bike. Insurance too I suspect. But MC trailers I think are different deal.

... and in some states Trailers get the SAME plate as the tow vehicle.

But, most small, single axle MC trailers, AFAIK, have NO plate which means NO registration. I've no idea how insurance classifies a MC trailer or if they will even insure it and attach it to your bike's policy. ????

But since THOUSANDS of Gold Wing and Harley guys tow MC trailers I'd guess insurance IS available in some form. I would check with the Gold Wing forums ... they will be a goldmine of information on the trailer subject I'm sure.

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I need to know - if it a compulsory requirement (or not) for me to display a licence plate on the trailer ..., or can I get away with zero licence plate and zero trailer registration ? ..., and still lawfully tow it behind the motorcycle anywhere I please in the 'Americas' (North, Central, and South America) ....,
As mentioned, this is a State by State thing. ... and no idea about Latin America. My guess is if your bike is legal and insured and has valid TVIP, then ALL will be good with your trailer as well.


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If the U.S legal requirements DO state that the that trailer MUST registered ?(ie having a current registration certificate and with a licence plate mounter on the trailer) with either
- a U.S Registration and licence plate
- or an International Registration and licence plate ..,

Then that would mess with my plan , as I would therefore be forced to FIRST import the Trailer to Australia before my U.S trip to obtain Australian Trailer Registration and Licence Plate . This would therefore need to be completed before I shipped both bike and trailer to the US ? .., but hopefully that solution is a last resort - it's not a showstopper , it just complicates thing , takes up a lot of time with red tape in Australia , and adds a few thousand dollar of extra expenses for Australian import taxes and extra shipping (x2) for the trailer ?
You need to read up more here on HUBB to understand how the USA works ...
it's pretty clear you're missing a lot.

Remember ... it's 50 different states. There is Federal law which supersedes some state law, but mostly state laws are what govern vehicles and licensing. No international registration will ever be valid in any US state.

Once you've done some research on the Gold Wing forums most questions will be answered.

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Thanks Mollydog for your trailer recommendation links also , and I have previously looked at those trailers and searched hard for many months to consider others also while looking deeply into all trailer designs , and so far I have yet to find a trailer that suits my carry design needs.
The mono wheel trailers are great in their own right and for small short loads only due to the direct strain they put on the swing arm and frame .., but that centred wheel and short wheel base prevent me from loading my custom boards (with the longest board I plan on taking being an 8'6" big wave gun) due to their short length and that centre wheel juts up right in the location where I want my boards to go.
You can lead a Horse to water .... 5 boards? Really? I started bodysurfing and belly boarding at 7 or 8 years of age. Got along just fine! :smarts:

Once in El Salvador I broke my board on my head ... used the "big" half and continued Surfing. The local kids took the "short" half, shaped it into a nice board, stuck a fin on it and were ripping it up at La Libertad point. There are good shapers everywhere now. Even in El Salvador and Mexico. Look into it.

My suggestion for you would be to buy a nice mini van in USA, pull a lightweight MC trailer behind for your KTM. When you get to a Surf spot, you've got all the boards you "think" you need. Then, you can unload bike and ride round the area for a while exploring. Load bike back up, move on to next spot.

I did this throughout Mexico and Cent' America in the 70's. We had a Jawa 350 attached to our camper's bumper. Lived in El Salvador a couple months on that trip. (one of three major, long trips into that region in the 70's.)

Surfed in my youth ... me and about 2 million other Californian kids. Pretty common past time in 60's and 70's. I lived at Sunset Beach in Hawaii for a year. Quite a few "Pro" Aussie surfers lived there in 1970. Surfed with them everyday. One guy was world champion, forgot his name. Did some big wave surfing, but preferred the Pipeline ... when it was 4 to 6 ft.

I started surfing at age 8. Surfed until 27 or so. Water too cold around here and too fat, old and out of shape to enjoy it now. I consider myself lucky to still be riding bikes.

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