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Old 21 Jan 2018
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But most states will NOT allow you to register your Australian originated KTM here in USA. Against US EPA laws
Yes I will have my Oz registered bike , and I am aware that I will be permitted to ride my bike in the Americas when I ship it there from Australia (even without needing carnet)


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You need to read up more here on HUBB to understand how the USA works ...
it's pretty clear you're missing a lot.

Remember ... it's 50 different states. There is Federal law which supersedes some state law, but mostly state laws are what govern vehicles and licensing. No international registration will ever be valid in any US state.
My post was long winded, and with doubled up questions in a few areas Mollydog,
.., and by my own fault - I think I caused some misunderstandings in a few area (sorry about that)

- I will better clarify those misunderstandings from my previous posts - (in this section below) ...,


# 1 - When i ship my Australian motorcycle to the US ,
- I will not be attempting to register my Oz bike (with it's Oz plates) in the US ..., as there no need for me to even consider doing that.

I am aware that : for me to ride my Australian motorcycle - after having it shipped to the USA, or ridden across an international boarder into the USA ..., I am legal to ride that motorcycle in the USA ..., as long as :

A - my Australian motorcycle registration remains current,
B - My bike is displaying its Australian Licence plate
C - my passport remains current (with min 6 months left on it before expiry)
D - my bike remains roadworthy while in the US (as my home country laws dictate for the requirement of my registration)
E - I am always in possession of a current international driving permit ..,



# 2 - I do understand that each country I visit ,

- the govt of that country may / or may not require me to purchase some type of 3rd party insurance before (or after) crossing their boarder with my bike.
- that insurance requirement is to cover another 3rd party for possible injuries caused by my negligence in case of a traffic accident whist I am in that country - It does not cover my injuries, or my property or a 3rd party property.

Other countries may have laws which permit me to enter their country on the condition that I purchase their insurance 'after' I have crossed their boarder ,
- thus putting the onus and responsibility on me to ensure I do actually purchase it , where I must be able produce those purchase policy details to authorities at any time 'if requested' - and if I fail to produce the policy details it then I am in violation of their laws.

# 3 - I do also understand I am permitted to tow a bike trailer in the US - that was also registered and plated with similar Oz registration , behind my Australian motorcycle (mentioned above in # 1)



# 4 - I "Now have learnt" from you (thx) and another helpful member named Tom (thx) that sent me a PM - that :

- I also have the option to purchase a trailer in the US without an issue while I am there - and get that trailer registered in the US in my name , even though I am not a U.S citizen,
- and that I can legally tow that trailer behind my Australian registered motorcycle as long as I follow each US states laws that are set for 'towing trailers' behind a motorcycle.

I do now also realise - that that the trailer's registration laws will differ state by state , and realise that each U.S state honours the originating U.S states laws - ie; where the trailer was originally registered
- just as long as that registration for that 'trailer' remains current,
- and the trailer stays roadworthy as set by that original (states) registration requirements.


# 5 - In all my earlier posts, whenever I mentioned "insurance" ..,
I was referring to my own 'travel insurance' ..., which is something I will be sure to purchase in my home country before embarking for my trip.

I was not referring to any other type of insurance , and sorry I should have specifically typed 'travel' insurance , and not just 'insurance' as I did in my earlier posts which led to confusion (sorry about that ).




Now the things I need to still find out - and do more research on ...,

- Is how each of the other countries outside of the USA look at the legalities of towing a trailer behind a motorcycle - and whether it is OK like it is in the USA , or whether they have restrictions ?

cheers and thank you once again for you super helpful info

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All Great Stuff Davo! now you're getting the gist!

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Yes I will have my Oz registered bike , and I am aware that I will be permitted to ride my bike in the Americas when I ship it there from Australia (even without needing carnet)
Right, also know that there is NO Carnet requirement for ANY country in Latin America as well.


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A - my Australian motorcycle registration remains current,
B - My bike is displaying its Australian Licence plate
C - my passport remains current (with min 6 months left on it before expiry)
D - my bike remains roadworthy while in the US (as my home country laws dictate for the requirement of my registration)
E - I am always in possession of a current international driving permit ..,
Couple quick things:
Most Police will not know or care if your Aussie reg is current or not.
Local Police do not handle Immigration (yet!) so as long as your entry Visa is current, you are all good. Forget that six month thing, that may only apply upon entry, once in ... local Police don't deal with immigration, as long as your Passport is valid, all OK to local Police.

That said, your Passport is by far your best I.D. Local Police in USA may not have ever even seen an International Driver's license ... push come to shove ... you own Aussie License with your Passport would be best I.D. In any case, most cops you meet will let you go as a "good will gesture" unless you've done something really blatant.
Be nice, smile ... be a tourist ... they'll let you go.

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# 5 - In all my earlier posts, whenever I mentioned "insurance" ..,
I was referring to my own 'travel insurance' ..., which is something I will be sure to purchase in my home country before embarking for my trip.
Right, travel insurance. Good move. But you will also need Auto insurance for your bike in most countries and you should have it even if not required. Will it pay if you need it? Who Knows, but since it's 3rd party, it would mostly pay the '"other" guy.

And as you correctly state, it's mostly a "liability only" type insurance in most countries.
(3rd party only). Hard to get "Full Cover" in Latin America on a bike. So, don't get your bike Nicked! With that KTM I can see thieves going to great lengths to try and steal it! HIGHLY Desirable BIKE! (and why i ride a bike worth about $2500! )
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Hard to get "Full Cover" in Latin America on a bike. So, don't get your bike Nicked! With that KTM I can see thieves going to great lengths to try and steal it! HIGHLY Desirable BIKE! (and why i ride a bike worth about $2500! )
I hear you and agree with the cheaper bike, but after a lifetime of only ever owning cheap antiquated bikes & 40+ year old cars myself.., for the first time in my life I yearn for a 'new' bike with technology.

Regarding your important points on theft and security .

I fully understand those dangers you bought up and agree, and they are similar to ones I face here in Indonesia where I have lived for the past 12 years, where 'on some trips' there have been times where I have had security concerns and paid a local to park at their home or store.

On my bike I will also have an alarm installed, a disc lock, kryptonite cable lock, plus a bike cover to act as a deterrent , but yes vigilance is also needed at all times.
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All good. I would not worry too much about it. Yes, your KTM stands out a bit, but more and more high end bikes are going South now. Lots of BMW GS's, plenty of other KtM's too.

So don't go crazy ... just use common sense ... she'll be right mate.

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