Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > North America
North America Topics specific to Canada and USA/Alaska only.
Photo by Igor Djokovic, camping above San Juan river, Arizona USA

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Igor Djokovic,
camping above San Juan river,
Arizona USA



Like Tree59Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 4 Jul 2018
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Gunma, Japan
Posts: 1,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fern View Post
What do Canadians and Mexicans do when they drive into the USA??
Regarding Mexicans:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...1-3#post585224
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 4 Jul 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 4
Segurogringo do offer insurance for foreign riders on foreign bikes. You land up having to buy their regular travel insurance and then paying an additional separately charged fee to specify where the bike and rider are from. They are basically agents for a US firm called national unity.

Below are copies of what you actually get in terms of a policy. Use your own judgement.



Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 5 Jul 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 17
FRom what I can see it's for Mexico residents only so not sure how they get around that. It's also 3rd party only which won't work for a lot of people.


Quote:
Originally Posted by victay View Post
Segurogringo do offer insurance for foreign riders on foreign bikes. You land up having to buy their regular travel insurance and then paying an additional separately charged fee to specify where the bike and rider are from. They are basically agents for a US firm called national unity.

Below are copies of what you actually get in terms of a policy. Use your own judgement.

Last edited by Chris of Japan; 6 Jul 2018 at 05:27. Reason: quote not displayed correctly
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 6 Jul 2018
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,045
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fern View Post
What to american servicepeople do when they freight in a foreign plated vehicle back from their overseas posting?

What do Canadians and Mexicans do when they drive into the USA? There must surely be someone out there offering some form of insurance?
I expect servicepeople are expected to put a local plate on a vehicle they relocate home, even if they are exempt from import taxes.

Neither Canadian nor Mexican residents are subject to GDPR protections.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Bilco View Post
Dairyland have claimed it's GDPR rules but I think there is more to it.

It's a crazy situation but I'm told it will be resolved shortly.......whatever that means!!
Well, it stopped literally at the moment GDPR came into effect, so it sound legit.

"Whatever that means" probably means a US insurer will get a GDPR-compliant data solution in place.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 20 Jul 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Erfurt
Posts: 8
Any news on this topic? 3 weeks until the trip starts - and still no insurance
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 27 Jul 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 2
We are starting our trip in Alaska the 21st of August, and regarding the insurance we are going for the Seguro Gringo option just as Victay posted a couple of weeks back. Actually, this first page of what he posted states that it's only for Mexican residents, but the second paper is additional for people not living in Mexico, and it states a change of the policy so that it's valid for the specified foreign bike and driver.

We're shipping with Motofreight, and they have been in contact with Seguro Gringo directly; over email they confirmed that they can provide 3rd party liability insurance on European bikes. I was also informed that a group of bikers entered the US in New York with this policy recently.

There are also some stories about Progressive policies being used, but I guess it depends a lot on the agent. Apparently, there have been issued some insurances with using a 'friends' address in the state where the trip starts. I have written to all Progressive agents in Anchorage but uptill now only got replies that this Progressive program is not applicable for foreign bikes.

I've been in touch with Fernet as well, they are working on some new program similar to the previous Dairyland one, but they have had no luck getting it up and running until now. Guess I would have preferred this, as the Seguro Gringo policy might be somewhat vague and open to interpretation, but it seems to be the only option thus far.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 27 Jul 2018
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 47
Yeah we're in exactly the same boat and I wonder if we're the group that Motofreight referred to as I have a dozen bikes flying into NY shortly. We haven't taken out a policy with Seguro Gringo yet but it's who we'll have to go with. Like you it's far from ideal, especially with the limited amount we're covered for, but it's easier that or cancel and most of the guys are willing to go with it. I just hope something more solid comes available soon as I know it'll put a lot of people off.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 28 Jul 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 3
US/CANADA INSURANCE LATEST FOR INTERNATIONAL RIDERS ON OWN BIKE

LATEST

Read all comments and thanks for sharing.

I got an informative email from a manager at SEGURO GRINGO today

It appears to be possible to activate cover - but - LIABILITY only

That will not work for me and cancelled my TRANS CANADA HIGHWAY ride this year and planning another trip instead

Hope MOTORCYCLE EXPRESS will get another policy/insurer/underwriter up and running soon with the same cover as Dairyland offered.
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 29 Jul 2018
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 47
Just taken out a policy with Seguro Gringo. It seems okay and the company seem to keen to confirm that it's legit, it's just the tiny amount of third party cover it covers you for that's the slightly worry. But it's that or cancel the trip.
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 29 Jul 2018
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
Posts: 3,911
Glad to hear there is at least one viable option.

Vehicle insurance requirements vary in the US from one state to the next, and there is no nation-wide system or set of rules. For example, requirements are fewer in Montana than in Washington State....except that, oddly, AFAIK motorcycles are not required to carry insurance in Washington. In any case, all states will allow you to drive when covered by insurance policies taken out in other states, whether or not they satisfy local requirements.

The policy above appears to satisfy minimum requirements in Texas. That makes it legal to use for driving anywhere in the US or Canada. Its coverage is really low by US standards, so your best bet is to not have any accidents (in case you needed to hear that).

I am not at all convinced that the endorsement (second page of the policy above) voids the first page disclaimers. In other words, I'm not sure that you're really covered as a non-Mexican resident. I'm not saying don't ride carrying this insurance--I've put many tens of thousands of miles on uninsured cars and motorbikes. I just wouldn't want to count on it in the event of any problem.

If there are any lawyers in the viewing audience, one might be willing to say something about the enforceability of a contract which requires illegal acts from either party.

That's enough idle speculation from this corner.

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 7 Aug 2018
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Belgium
Posts: 35
Fernet insurance

A small update. We were able to get a solution via Fernet. Helped us perfect. Cheryl Dudek
FERNET INSURANCE
1950 Lee Rd Ste 107
Winter Park, FL 32789
866-768-7558 Fax
800-391-8144 Toll Free
321-972-1865 Local
www.fernet.com
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 8 Aug 2018
Grant Johnson's Avatar
HU Founder
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 1997
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 7,238
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaakGS View Post
A small update. We were able to get a solution via Fernet. Helped us perfect. Cheryl Dudek
FERNET INSURANCE
1950 Lee Rd Ste 107
Winter Park, FL 32789
866-768-7558 Fax
800-391-8144 Toll Free
321-972-1865 Local
www.fernet.com
GOOD news - HOWEVER, their webpage says on the "Overseas visitors" page":
https://www.fernet.com/Pages/overseas.htm

"This Program has been suspended until further notice."

So I'm trying to contact them, but the "Contact us" form is broken! gaah!
__________________
Grant Johnson
Seek, and ye shall find.

------------------------
Inspiring, Informing and Connecting travellers since 1997!
www.HorizonsUnlimited.com
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 8 Aug 2018
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Belgium
Posts: 35
I called them and had several email contact. Rook me only half a day and everything was done.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant Johnson View Post
GOOD news - HOWEVER, their webpage says on the "Overseas visitors" page":
https://www.fernet.com/Pages/overseas.htm

"This Program has been suspended until further notice."

So I'm trying to contact them, but the "Contact us" form is broken! gaah!
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950U1 met Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 10 Aug 2018
Grant Johnson's Avatar
HU Founder
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 1997
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 7,238
Don't do anything irrevocable yet! GOOD news is coming, within days with any luck at all. I've been corresponding with Cheryl at Fernet, and they will write policies - but they haven't yet got ABSOLUTE CONFIRMATION IN WRITING that it's 100% legit for foreign travellers, so they're waiting for that, and she'll let me know instantly and I'll post it here.
__________________
Grant Johnson
Seek, and ye shall find.

------------------------
Inspiring, Informing and Connecting travellers since 1997!
www.HorizonsUnlimited.com
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 10 Aug 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Osnabrueck
Posts: 2
Hello Grant and Jaak,

did Cheryl/Fernet by any chance mention the type of cover the policy will contain, i.e. liability, comprehensive, etc?

Regards,
Dietmar
Reply With Quote
Reply


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/north-america/insurance-for-foreign-bike-us-93901
Posted By For Type Date
Insurance for a foreign bike in the US? - Page 2 - Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB This thread Refback 10 Jun 2018 08:19

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 4 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 4 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Complete Central America/Mexico/Colombia Border Crossing Information sellheim Central America and Mexico 30 6 Mar 2023 23:33
Winging my way across the USA backofbeyond Ride Tales 7 20 May 2016 22:12
Selling a foreign bike in the Iquique Free Trade Zone (Zofri) s445203 SOUTH AMERICA 8 14 May 2016 12:15
Registering a foreign bike in Zona Franca Chile andrewmillen SOUTH AMERICA 0 2 Feb 2016 00:46
Bike & dog friendly Morocco-Mauritania-Senegal-Mali SauerkrautandTofuwurst Sleep and Eat, North Africa 0 27 Mar 2014 21:16

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 13:21.