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OK, I am almost there. Flipflopped a bit as expected the more I read about all these options. After more considertion I eliminated the DRX400. Mostly because I agree with Fern....riding with pillion and bags on that bike is just too much to ask of it. I rode pillion and luggage on much smaller bikes all over the world in S. America and Asia, but always on shitty roads with heavy traffic that wouldnt have made me feel comfortable going above 80kph even if the little machine under me could do it.

The reality is I will be riding with a pillion quite often. And although I will likely end up in Africa/and or Asia with this bike at some point, I will also be doing plenty of highway commutes to nature areas in Europe. I think it would probably hold up, but like I said, its a lot to ask of it.

Also I realize the DR650 is just much more practical in general for the road. Sure Ill be taking it offroad, but not all the time and when I do I am not the type to rip around much.

So I focused more on comparing the pros and cons of a CB500X with a RR kit and a DR650. Both can be found used and cheap here.

And I am gravitating more towards the DR650. Here's my main reasons:

The biggest is weight. CB is a full 30 kilos heavier. And I am TINY. 1.73 meters weighing in at a whopping 53kilos (that's 5'8" 120 pounds!). So weight really matters (Its really the main thing that made me want to ditch my Triumph Scrambler in the first place).

Next is the carburated engine. I know I initially stated that fuel consumption was important to me, but the more I think about it the more I feel its also important not to be stuck in the Pamirs with some FI problem I have no idea how to tinker with.

I think what I really want is something in between the DRZ400 and the DR650...that is not fuel injected and weighs in around 155kilos. Suitable for a pillion, good off road but better on and all the other stuff I have stated I am looking for.

For now Im thinking the DR650 is not exactly what Im looking for, but it comes pretty close.
I agree with Fern - the DR650 is a great old-school trail/travel bike, but hard to find in Europe.

With regard to your concerns about the CB500X - as you know, I have a lot of experience with those bikes, and there are dozens of Rally-Raid customers [and even riders on more standard machines] who have ridden all over the world on them - including the UK to India, the length of Africa, all-round South America - they are ultra reliable and don't break down.

With the greatest of respect, the EFi vs carburettor argument in general is bollocks (as we like to say in the UK ;o) - modern EFi is just like electronic ignition and any other electrical system on a motorbike. In addition, a pressurised fuel system and filter means a fuel injector is even less likely to get blocked that a carb jet. Honestly, it is not even worth a second thought these days.

The CB500X does weigh more than a DR650 it's true - but that is because it is a far more substantial bike, with a physically larger engine and ancillaries, and a proper subframe, comfortable seat (for two people), 17.5 litre fuel tank and a fairing/screen plus decent lights etc.

Add all that lot to your DR and you'll have a bike very similar in weight, but which is more top heavy, produces less power and uses more fuel.

I think you need to ride a CB500X before you make your mind up - I guarantee you'll be impressed by the way it handles, and how light it feels (all the weight is very low and centralised between your knees).

There is a reason John and I developed the Rally-Raid Adventure kit around that particular platform, and that is because Honda got so many of the key requirements for a genuine long-distance all-terrain travel bike right with it... It's true they cut corners with some of the running gear to keep the price down to a budget level - so we just gave it the better suspension and wheels we felt it deserved.



In fact I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest it* is going to be better than any single cylinder d/s bike on the road, and better than any other twin cylinder ADV bike off-road.

*I'm talking about the LEVEL 2 Rally-Raid kitted bikes of course.


But hey, I also completely understand the attraction of a simpler, old-school bike too (I still love my XR400R for exactly those reasons), so if you can find a DR650 try and take one for a ride too before you make your mind up.

I just guarantee your passenger will prefer the Honda... as will you ;o)

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