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Maybe a Yamaha 660 Tenere might come close?
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CRF 450 L seems appropriate...
I wait for WR 450 R. Hope it comes out in 2-3 years !
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Not sure either of above bikes could realistically handle TWO UP riding with LUGGAGE. Maybe the Tenere if fitted with a WIDER custom seat? Not sure you could do it on the so skinny new Honda ... with just 25 HP. 
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Not sure either of above bikes could realistically handle TWO UP riding with LUGGAGE. Maybe the Tenere if fitted with a WIDER custom seat? Not sure you could do it on the so skinny new Honda ... with just 25 HP. |
tenere has the most comfortable seat of all I've ridden, also for pillion.
not to mention it has very good suspension soaking up all bumps on the road nicely. I could live in xt660z seat...all day
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regarding CB500X - IMO if you add that adv kit it's no longer that much of a deal and still it's limited off-road, low ground clearance, weight etc.
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tenere has the most comfortable seat of all I've ridden, also for pillion.
not to mention it has very good suspension soaking up all bumps on the road nicely. I could live in xt660z seat...all day
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I agree - XT660Z is a very comfortable long-distance travel bike. I know people who have travelled around the world two up on one too.
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regarding CB500X - IMO if you add that adv kit it's no longer that much of a deal and still it's limited off-road, low ground clearance, weight etc.
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I do not agree. The Rally-Raid kit for the CB500X was designed to match or exceed the performance of three key bikes: the F700GS, the XT660Z and the KLR650... As you are probably aware, I've owned both the XT660Z and helped develop the CB500X kit - and it is every bit as good as the XT off-road, and even nicer on the highway.
I'd say either are an excellent choice for the OP if they genuinely want to ride long distance, and also carry a passenger.
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Guys I thought the OP asked about 450cc range, any ideas in this range? We all know about the 650s
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Did you miss the posts about the Honda CB500X? It's only 50cc away ... also did you see the DRZ400S posts?
There aren't a lot of current 450 dual sport bikes other than the new $10,000 USD Husky and KTM's. Both would be terrible travel bikes. Been there, done that.
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I have reservations about taking the CB500X offroad in its stock form at least.
I rented one for a week in Greece and tried some trails. The CB500X is just not an offroad bike: the balance is wrong, the bike just doesn't want to go where you want her to, brakes are too agressive and the rear alloy wheel on my bike was already dented. After 10 kms of trails I was exhausted like if I had carried the bike all the way.
I'm not making here any assumption on the adventure kits, the one I had was full stock. Just saying the CB500X is not much more of an offroad bike than my good old 4-cylinder and 200+kg GSX750.
Like the OP I was also on the look for a dual-sport in Europe. Ended changing my plans and got a DR650 in Canada that I'll ride South this year.
Before doing that I thought one bike which is worth considering for the use that the OP described is the SWM superdual 650.
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Another 450 is the GP450 from CCM
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Before doing that I thought one bike which is worth considering for the use that the OP described is the SWM superdual 650.
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It's an interesting machine and may be the reason that CCM, the UK bike manufacturer, is in no hurry to produce a bike as the successor to their GP450.
(the same 650 engine is in use by CCM but the company are selling into a completely different market - one with far more disposable income).
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Not sure either of above bikes could realistically handle TWO UP riding with LUGGAGE. Maybe the Tenere if fitted with a WIDER custom seat? Not sure you could do it on the so skinny new Honda ... with just 25 HP. |
Depends on the weighs of the rider and passenger 
Sure it will not be a comfortable ride !
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