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Doncha badmouth ma 950!

Yes - nice vid!

However, in order to provide a balanced view - it seems strange that you can condemn a bike as overcomplicated because it has a fuel pump when you are using shaft drive on a dirt bike! I wonder how your average basic workshop anywhere in the world would do when that went wrong? Probably the same way they would deal with tearing your bike in half to replace a worn clutch (as opposed to undoing a dozen bolts on a KTM 950)

Incidentally - the KTM 950 uses the same fuel pump as that most unreliable of bikes, the Africa Twin - they are known to need replacing every 30-40K miles, cost 100 Euro, are small and so a spare is easily transported, and can be swapped out in about 15 mins by anyone with the mechanical skills of a bi-polar monkey.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking airheads - I have ridden a few and think they are great bikes -and they undoubtably have some advantages over a KTM 950 from some riders' perspective, such as seat height, and ease of carb adjustment.

It is a shame you need to resort to tenous, criticisms of other manufacturers' bikes in order to justify your own - you didn't mention how much the HPN costs.

And while I'm on a roll, Ali Baba, I assume when you said that other bikes would be boring after riding an HPN you meant other BMW bikes. Other companies make bikes too y'know.

Well that's it - now Ive offended everybody I'll shut up.

Well actually, no I won't. Hendikaf - ultimate 2-up off road tourer available in the US? That'd be the KTM 950 Adventure!
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That's a nice looking machine. Pitty about the tank though, but surely Acerbis or someone will make a bigger job. With the exhaust where it is I can see that conventional luggage wouldn't work, but there must be ways to make your own rack, especially for soft luggage.

As for the lack of fairings - I reckon it's a bonus, less to crack and break, and you don't need to remove it to fiddle with stuff. If it makes it tougher riding then you just need to harden up.
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It’s important to understand that each bike is different and built after the buyers need.

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That's a nice looking machine. Pitty about the tank though, but surely Acerbis or someone will make a bigger job.
There are loads of different tanks available, up to 43 liters + rear tank (7.5 liter).


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With the exhaust where it is I can see that conventional luggage wouldn't work, but there must be ways to make your own rack, especially for soft luggage.
Conventional luggage works (both hard and soft), you can get standard racks, custom built or build it yourself. Personally I have a heavy duty rack (and subframe) with stock exhaust and Jesse Luggage.

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As for the lack of fairings - I reckon it's a bonus, less to crack and break, and you don't need to remove it to fiddle with stuff. If it makes it tougher riding then you just need to harden up.
There is a variety of fairings, you can find some examples here: High resolution pics - HPN Motorradtechnik GmbH
Lots of HPN-bikes: HPN Owners Club - Fotogalerie - HPN Galerie



For me the cost is much less then a KTM990/R1200GS/HP2.
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And while I'm on a roll, Ali Baba, I assume when you said that other bikes would be boring after riding an HPN you meant other BMW bikes. Other companies make bikes too y'know.

I know that there are other brands then BMW and I’ve owned a few (check my profile). There is also a Yamaha in my garage and I might be looking for a KTM again (not road legal).

Maybe it was a bit hard to write “the problem is that all other bikes get boring” because normally I like to test other bikes, all kind of bikes. But right now I find it boring to drive them for a long time. Okay?
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No worries - you don't have to justify yourself to me (or anyone else for theat matter). I was just responding to your comment that after riding an HPN all other bikes seem boring.

Maybe one day we will meet, and we will swap bikes, and you will confirm how boring my bike is compared to your HPN (when I first posted I didnt realise you were an HPN owner), then I will buy you a , you can drink yours and I will cry into mine....

...then I'll turn on the ignition, hear the reassuring tick of the fuel pump, and ride off with a smile on my face content in the knowledge that I have the perfect bike for me... which is surely what it'a all about!
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...then I'll turn on the ignition, hear the reassuring tick of the fuel pump, and ride off with a smile on my face content in the knowledge that I have the perfect bike for me... which is surely what it'a all about!
Yes, that’s what it’s all about!
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