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Personally I think it looks particularly good from this angle...



I'm surprised to see they kept the four separate headlights, I was certain they'd have replaced them with a one-piece plastic assembly for the production spec.

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https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/pr...019/techspecs/

Weight is 205kgs wet, with 16 litre tank.

(So basically same weight as my Tiger 800 and my XT660z - both of which have larger tanks).


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Could that refer to Yamaha USA only? (Don't know why).

Lot of talk of 2019 from EICMA:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...max-eicma-show
Yes it is the USA website.

Here is more info:

Seat height: 34.6inch
Front travel: 8.3inch
Rear travel: 7.9inch
Front wheel: 21inch
Rear wheel: 18inch
Ground clearance 9.5inch
Estimated fuel range: 215miles

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https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/pr...019/techspecs/

Weight is 205kgs wet, with 16 litre tank.

(So basically same weight as my Tiger 800 and my XT660z - both of which have larger tanks).


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It is disappointing.

Let's see what Kawasaki will do to replace the KLR650.
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https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/pr...019/techspecs/

Weight is 205kgs wet, with 16 litre tank.

(So basically same weight as my Tiger 800 and my XT660z - both of which have larger tanks).


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that what I've expected based on MT07 weight. For traveling this weight with that engine is OK but tank definitely too small. Looks like I'll keep my old tenere for few more years anyway.

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somehow nobody want's to jump into 140-160kg wet weight segment for adv bike, must be conspiracy
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liking that they kept the flat seat into production, one of my gripes with my 660 ten was the step up in the seat.
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liking that they kept the flat seat into production, one of my gripes with my 660 ten was the step up in the seat.
right, good for off-road but for traveling I found that step up very comfortable.
I like also Baja style headlight lamp.
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looks real good in the photos, shame I'm such a short arse, I found my 660 ten too tall and top heavy. be interesting to see how they price this given that the other bikes using the same engine are very reasonable. I'd like to think this bike comes in shy of £8k but who knows?
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looks real good in the photos, shame I'm such a short arse, I found my 660 ten too tall and top heavy. be interesting to see how they price this given that the other bikes using the same engine are very reasonable. I'd like to think this bike comes in shy of £8k but who knows?
If the bike get too expensive, the 2019 cb500x now comes with a 19inch front wheel and an extra 15mm of front suspension.
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shame I'm such a short arse, I found my 660 ten too tall and top heavy.
I'm 5'8" with 30-in inseam, so also 'partially heighted'. Initially I had a lowering link on my 660 Tenere but as I quickly gained confidence I took it off in favour of the increased suspension travel. My method of mounting was a take-off of John Cleese's silly walks.



Yes the 660Z is top heavy but I think that's actually an advantage off-tarmac as it makes it quicker reacting to steering/weighting inputs. My main criticism of the bike was the deep wheel rims which made swapping inner tubes when you have a puncture such a pain.
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I had a look at one at the bike show. It looked a good machine. everyone keeping stum about the price and weight but from what i gleen it will be sub £9 in the UK depending upon brexit. seat height at 880mm is a bit much for a 5'5" squirrel like me, but lower seats will be available.



Seat was just right, wide enough for all day but easy enough to move around for balance.



The look was just right to make it appreciable by people in the know but fairly understated when you wern't trying to boast your wealth.



I didn't like the mountings for luggage which made it very wide but I recon this was only put on as a show afterthought so someone will make narrower luggage hangers.



As a side the KTM 790 was much lower, good for someone like me, but it was all hard on and un-sublte. The big tank seemed to bulge out at the side making it seem lardy and also a weak area in a crash.


I'm sure it is technically well ahead and on the sheets appears a long way ahead, but I would feel uneasy parking up in less salubrious parts of the world on such a machine, whereas the Tenere is more subtle.



Just thoughts from my own perspective, but it is really good to see these manufactures taking a decent stab at making really usable all surface bikes like this.



I love lighter bikes because I spend so much time picking them up!


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Yes the 660Z is top heavy but I think that's actually an advantage off-tarmac as it makes it quicker reacting to steering/weighting inputs.
it's actually the opposite, having lower center of gravity is better off-road because of low speed maneuvers while top heavy bikes are quicker to move around on tarmac at higher speed on twisty roads.
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The turning dynamics are mainly to do with trying to interfere with the stability brought about by the gyroscopic effect of the rotating wheels.

If you are in sand you want to be turning primarily by weighting the pegs. Do this on a BMW 1200 GS and nowt much happens and you carry straight on. Do the same with the Tenere and it turns nicely. This is the advantage of a top heavy bike compared to the beemer with its weight low down.

At speed on tarmac the Tenere with the larger 21-in front wheel is harder to turn than the BMW with its 19-in setup and really needs assistance with deliberate counter steering. This is best demonstrated by riding first the BMW 700GS with its 19-in wheel and then riding what is essentially the same bike, the BMW 800GS with its 21-in wheel.

If the wheels were the same I guess the Tenere might be easier to turn.
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looks like great bike for solo traveler, for 2up not so much.


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Does anyone know when the bike is actually going to be starting to be delivery in Europe?
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