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Tenere 700 - The long awaited perfect adventure bike?

Presented at EICMA, the new Tenere concept bike, the T7.

Dakar-Inspired Yamaha T7 Concept Unveiled at EICMA - ADV Pulse

Could this be the perfect adventure bike?

With a rumoured weight of 180kg, this modern machine seems to be what many have been waiting for, a middle weight bike with real dirt capabilities without sacrificing too much street comfort.

Looks mighty fine if you ask me.
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This looks awesome, I wonder if they'll keep the weight down in the production model though. If they can this'll certainly give the 690/701 a run for its money!
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Looks to be a good direction. The 600 and 660 had a good reputation here. Do anything if a touch on the budget side long term. Things like cush drive rubbers needing wrapping in inner tube.

It'll be on my 2019 shopping list.

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I'm a bit confused (doesn't take much). Is this same bike that we saw spy pics of a few months back on test in Italy or is it a concept for a more adventure-focused bike based off the one we saw spy pics of? I'm kinda hoping for the latter as I'd like to get a new bike next year, not wait 'till 2018...
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yes the T7 concept bike is suppose to be the bike from the spy shots
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Bugger. Used F800GS it is then...
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YAMAHA revealed the TÉNÉRÉ 700 PROTOTYPE on the pre-EICMA yesterday.

Yamaha reveals Ténéré 700 World Raid ... | Visordown

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy55wM0q9r0

Looks like it will not be available before 2019 ..
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kTM has another one of the "Which bikes" in this sector

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YAMAHA revealed the TÉNÉRÉ 700 PROTOTYPE on the pre-EICMA yesterday.

Yamaha reveals Ténéré 700 World Raid ... | Visordown

and:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy55wM0q9r0

Looks like it will not be available before 2019 ..
KTM may get into the market before Yamaha:-
https://www.adventurebikerider.com/k...e-r-prototype/

Which ever company does it first, twin cylinder engines of "middling capacity" are the way to go?

Footnote: This is the day when the journos reveal what they have been allowed access to at the EICMA - the public get their access from tomorrow.
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KTM 790 Adeventure

My money is on the new KTM 790 Adventure bike.


KTM 790 Adventure Concept
发动机(Engine) 799cc parallel-twin
马力(Power) 103.3bhp @ 9000rpm (est)
座高(Seat height) 850mm (est)
车重(Weight) 180kg (est, dry)

Link..... with pictures ....2017米兰车展:KTM 790 参数曝光
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Both seem to fill the gap between enduros and the large heavy adventure bikes.

Not too heavy for off-road and sufficient power for on-road use and not too expensive I hope ;-)

Question is why this takes this long ..
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In a nutshell

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Question is why this takes this long ..
The money lies elsewhere: all of the manufacturers bring out a new model in a "road going" bike first which are the ones that sell in the mass market segment compared with the so-called adventure market.
KTM, for instance, will always market a Duke as the first of their bikes when they have a newly developed engine. Similarly, Yamaha have had their XSR with the 700cc engine fitted and on sale for about the past 2 years.

CCM are on to the same marketing ploy, with their "spitifire" fitted with the SWM engine rather than making now their replacement for the GP450.
It doesn't matter if it is a single, a twin cyl or whatever, main-stream bikes sell well.
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Yamaha used a lot of resources to develope this thingy - I presume itwill be their best seller for the next 5-6 years...

Yamaha reveal stunning new Niken three-wheeler | MCN
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yamaha overslept, too late, too heavy. By 1the 2019 everybody will ride KTM new adventure and updated Africa Twin.


BTW don't get it why it takes so long for them to release new bike if this is supposed to be MT-07 in adventure clothing.

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BTW don't get it why it takes so long for them to release new bike if this is supposed to be MT-07 in adventure clothing.
Probably because the accountants who run the various branches of Yamaha industrial production deem it not economic, for their books, to mass manufacture such machines until the premium price for other types of machines has been obtained by said company.

There will always be customers lining up to buy any machine that has the tuning forks as the logo.
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KTM just presented the new 790 Duke and Adventure bikes at EICMA show.
Cycle World somehow found a claimed Dry Weight for the Adventure model:

The good: 103 hp, 63 lb/ft of torque, 372 lbs dry.
The bad: The USA won't see it until about a year from now.

Europe will get this bike in 2018 but USA have to wait a whole year for it's release. So, this should give Yamaha time to "Adjust" the T7. But if those weight quotes are any where near accurate ... then once again KTM will easily win the day, estimating a Wet Curb weight at round 400 to 410 lbs. ready to ride, fully fueled. That is LIGHT for a Twin.

Worth the wait? YES! The real UNKNOWN will be the new P-Twin 790 engine.
How strong and reliable will it be? This is an ALL NEW Engine for KTM, who's past record on new hardware is less than perfect!
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