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Doc - this gets pretty political also very off topic and certainly aint about bikes so this may not be the place to put this and it may well get struck off but I will answer your question and maybe it may be of interest who want to travel and see the wonder of our world and share it with the creatures that inhabit it with us. I have many years ago worked in many parts of the world, where I have dived as part of my job - but even prior to this I had an interest in and empathy with the worlds oceans, seas and the creatures that live in them. For over thirty years I have campaigned against the various whaling industrys and been part of various anti whaling action groups - and have campaigned against all the whaling nations and now only three remain of note - (Norway and Iceland on a different level to japan but still in there on a miniscule scale) but mainly the Japanese nation ( yes I include a lot (not all) of the japanese people who for some weird cultural reason hold the fisherman, whalers and dolphin slaughterers as national heros). The Japanese have broken international treaties and have ignored all nations and used blackmail and industrial might to persuade smaller reliant nations to back them on the issue of whaling etc ( if you vote against us they threaten to withdraw all support - industrial, financial etc.). The Japanese have also for some time supported pirate whaling to try to move the pressure away from themselves as those ships fly under a different flag and operate totally illegally - financed by guess who - The Japanese - they are the only nation who continue against international protestation to carry out industrial level of whaling, dolphin and porpoise hunting etc they kill the largest number of whales of any nation on earth, protected species or not, young whales nursing mothers and pregnant females there is no mercy even worse they also do their hunting in the international whaling reserve in the south pacific and antarctic oceons - this area was put in place to protect pregnant whales and schools with young to allow a safe haven for depleted stocks of whales and dolphins to recover. Japan does not recognise this area and continues to whale it under the banner of 'scientific research'. Japan currently has 5 years stock of unused whale flesh that they can not sell or use on the home market. They continue to Whale and have massive dolphin hunts and slaughter as its a tradition. They continue to fish on unbelievable scale and are stripping the south atlantic and antarctic ocean to the point of extinction. I will not give my hard earned money nor anything else to a nation who in my opinion are supporting a cause as bad for our wildlife and seas as Hitler was to the Jewish nation. I am well aware other nations cause damage, wars, environment meltdown etc and I including our own but this one is my own little battle and has been since the 1970's.

Bye that got that one of me chest. So you now know why mista Honda or suzuki aint on my shopping list . Jake.

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