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Originally Posted by Sam I Am
I used MotoTouring as well in 2010 and was very pleased with their service, but the insurance had many exclusions at the time: Albania, Andorra, Bosnia Herzegovina, Israel, Iran, Morocco, Moldavia, Macedonia (FYROM), Russia, Serbia, Tunisia, Turkey and the Ukraine. I think that these exclusions are fairly common.
Motorcycle Express Motorcycle Express - Ship Your Bike, however, offers Green Card insurance for non-Europeans that says "is valid all over Europe including Russia, Turkey, Morocco and Tunisia". They don't list any excluded European countries. It's not cheap (e.g., $550 for 3 months, $1050 for 6 months for liability alone), but there is limited theft and collision available (at even higher rates).
Two questions:
1) Is this universal Green Card for Europe actually recognized at the borders of all the included countries? I remember reading a thread not all that long ago about the fact that although Russia had been officially included into the Green Card program, the border officials and particularly the road police were unaware of it and were looking for an older form of insurance documentation. Has that situation changed?
2) If one plans on visiting many of the normally excluded countries listed above, is it smarter (though maybe more expensive) to buy a comprehensive package from MotorcycleExpress or better to get less expensive but less-inclusive coverage from MotoTouring and buy additional coverage at the borders? I know that when I was in Turkey in 2010, three months of "insurance" cost about $10 at the border. Made me seriously wonder just how much insurance I really had.  None.
Any thoughts? Thanks...
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Sam,
Russia "joined" Euro Greencard insurance consortium eff. 01 Jan 2009:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ow-valid-40443
BUT
1) No one has reported here on HUBB actual experience of
a. first obtaining Euro Greencard that is endorsed for/ includes RUssia;
b. presenting that document at RU border crossing;
c. having that document accepted by RU border crossing authorities;
d. (much less) recognized by RU traffic police/ authorities on the road;
e. (to say nothing of) submitting claim successfully after accident in RU.
A general Google search in English displays no actual experience reports
from non-HUBB sources since the 2009 RU official announcement.
General interest RU travel sites like
Traveling to & from Russia by car, motorcycle or hitchhiking | waytorussia.net page
still reference obtaining RU insurance separately at the border.
The MotorcycleExpress policy is actually underwritten by a large Euro insurance company AXA, through a general managing agent, tourinsure.de. in Germany. Presumably AXA would not claim that its Euro Greencard covers RU without having made all the required legal/ commercial agreements with the RU authorities. (It's one thing for RU to "join"; its another for Euro (& UK)
insurance underwriters to actually include/ extend that cover. it's a third for the "policy" to work its way down to on-the-ground reality.)
RU bottom-line: it's still an unknown crapshoot
2) Beddhist is right. And both the Greencard--or separate border insurance-- are first/ foremost "just the paper to show," because there is so little actual accident/ claim experience reported. "What did your [Turkey] company do for you?" is an unknowable (anywhere in the world) until there's an actual covered accident, and then it all depends on the specific circumstances.