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16 Aug 2008
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Originally Posted by peter-denmark
it is a very helpfull company indeed.
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Sorry for the delay in replying but I can confirm that everything went smoothly with my insurance. I received scans in advance and the paper documents at my requested address.
I'd like to know know more about that possible price increase for next time though.
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Originally Posted by PanEuropean
Here's a picture of the insurance document that Arisa issues. This happens to be the coverage I purchased last year from an ADAC office.
The document is normally referred to as a 'green card', in practice, you get two copies, one is a receipt for your records, which is pink (shown below), the other is the actual proof of insurance document, which is green (that happens to be in my motorcycle saddlebag at the moment). The two documents are the same, they are all multiple impression documents printed on carbonless paper.
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Ohh well.... hmmm
I actual feel a bit sorry...... I wonder about the XXXX countries on your pink cover note ?! well you are right the "international motor insurance card" is lime green cheap sloppy paper....... all the interesting countries are not Xed-out on the original one I got issued with out asking for it by my insurance company...
(that's why I feel sorry)
Well and what about the limited time validation less than a year ?!
OK I live in Germany, and my insurance company is the HUK-Coburg, the "green card" is "GREEN" is valid for three years (yes 3-years from 14/7/2006 to 14/7/2009 in my case) and nothing is Xed-out at all, any of the 44 country codes from "A to UA" are open and not crossed out for no extra cost, actually non of the country's is crossed out! as I say I didn't ask for it they just issued it that way.
I pay 120-Euros (with 2nd year bonus) a year 3rd-party as the cheapest policy they do.
Now this behaver of German insurance companies seams to be normal, but if some one else comes along they will classify foreigners as a higher risk and rip you off.
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19 Aug 2008
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can this insurance only be bought in Germany or can you get it in other european countries. We are driving overland from Asia entering europe trough Turkey, or can you get insurance that covers all countries?
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G'day! Icame through Turkey last week. I entered Bulgaria at the main highway crossing point. There are 4 checkpoints. Between the 2nd and 3rd, on the left, is an office building that kind of says it's like a auto authority (or sumthin like that),. If you go to the window you will find a Very nice young lady, who will gladly sell you 3rd party insurance, for I think about 25 Euro, that covers you for all EU countries. Or so it says, no one has asked for it since........
I hope, if you do go that way, that they got the computer in the 4th point fixed. Cause I wouldn't wish the 5hr wait I had in 36 deg heat on anyone... Good Luck, Bootlace.
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20 Aug 2008
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Green card available in Russia
Just finished round the world trip in St.Petersburg and was surprised to find a green card in the city so cheap and instant. I ordered one from Arisa but it didn't make it in time because of holidays.
Also heard cheap insurance is available on finnish border west of Vyborg.
I got it for 44 euros / 3 months through a russian company Russkii mir, covering all european countries including Balkans, Ukraine, Turkey, Moldavia and so on. Highly unusual, but actual insurance is from polish company Hestia, they are the underwriters.
Green card is in the same format like any other, written in polish and english if you send me a private message i would be happy to email you a scan.
Place i got it in St. Petersburg was near Ladhoszskaya station, but same company has several branches.
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20 Aug 2008
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I *think* that in theory most AAs in Europe sell this kind of insurance. I got it in Izmir/TR and in Italy, but both a long time ago.
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24 Aug 2008
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I have recieved confirmation from the company that the price is still 22Euro pr month.
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I have recieved confirmation from the company that the price is still 22Euro pr month.
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That's good to know. Thanks, Peter.
Now who wants to write to Jorge about the cumulative 12 month limit? It could be an issue, as mentioned earlier, for anyone who keeps the same bike for a number of years...
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9 Sep 2008
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I crossed over from Vyborg to Finland on the 19th of July and was just waved through the border without needing to have any bike documentation checked. I have not bothered with Green card insurance and it was only when I enetered Croatia that the customs demanded it. I paid 15 euro for 1 months Croatian insurance. I then took the ferry from Split to Ancona before flying back to Australia from Roma last week. My Burgman leaves on the 17th of September and should be back in Oz a month later.
Whenever possible I try to avoid paying for insurance. On this journey insurance was only required for Russia, Kazakhstan and Croatia.
Garry from Oz.
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insurance in Spain
Below is a copy of my recent post regarding green card insurance in Spain. Also a few points from my previous experience with insurance: I tried to buy insurance on the Greek side of the Greek/Turkish border, i was told they no longer sell it to foreigners. I have bought ADAC insurance twice for my Aussie registered bike, for 6 months and 12 months respectively, nobody said anything about a maximum limit for insurance. I just found out it is possible in Spain (good info at OFESAUTO) but expensive, only buy here if you have to.
Insurance and a green card for foreign registered vehicles is available in Spain from certain agents. The Spanish organisation OFESAUTO has more specific information (in Spanish, English and French) OFESAUTO. This insurance is basically the same thing provided by ADAC in Germany and the same rules apply ie you need to apply in person, although they didn't ask to see the bike, only my documentation. The maximum coverage is 6 months, whereas ADAC provide 12 months. The insurance was also much more expensive in Spain, 80 euros for 15 days cover, 150 euros for 1 month. There is a bigger discount for 6 months cover, but it still works out about 4 times the price of ADAC insurance for 6 months coverage.
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I crossed over from Vyborg to Finland on the 19th of July and was just waved through the border without needing to have any bike documentation checked.
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Garry, you were lucky. Not having insurance in Europe means running risks with the police, not to mention big financial liability in case of an accident. If the cops find you without insurance in the EU you can expect to have your bike impounded on the spot, at least until you can produce valid insurance, plus a big fine.
I had an accident in Turkey, which was a car driver's fault. The first thing the cops asked for was insurance.
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24 Sep 2008
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Anyone know how I can make a quick bank transfer? They only accept bank transfers, but my home bank is charging me $50+ to send it making it suddenly not so cheap!
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28 Sep 2008
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Doing it quick is expensive - even inside the EU.
But it is somewhat cheaper to transfer money inside the EU I guess. If you know someone over here, then maybe you could paypal them the money and they could send the money to the bank.
But then again, how often do you go on a biking holiday in Europe? The extra expence is not that fun of course, but trust me it is nothing compared to the european gas prices!
You will be shocked...
Happy riding.
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Closed for holidays?
Has anyone had recent contact with Jorge re EU insurance? We've emailed him last week re xome cove we will need from late Dec for Europe, but haven't had any response yet.
Do they close for holiday period maybe?
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Same here
We sent an e-mail 2 weeks ago and still no reply. Hope all is well...
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Originally Posted by Brian and Marie
We sent an e-mail 2 weeks ago and still no reply. Hope all is well...
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Hi there
We eventually got a reply after sending the email to the info email. Jorge does not work there anymore, but this guy replied to our email.
Wolfgang Plunien
ARISA Assurances S.A
5,rue Eugène Ruppert
L-2453 Luxembourg
Tel: 00352 262940-43
Fax: 00352 262940-93
E-Mail: w.plunien@arisa.lu
He did however ask to contact the following email rather for correspondence.
kraftfahrt@arisa.lu
FYI - They are closed from 24 Dec until 04 Jan.
We got a qoute for a Oz registered Toyota Landcruiser of EURO 315 for 3 months, very expensive, so we just getting 1 month for now and will see if we can find something cheaper at either the border or somewhere else in Europe. Still waiting for paperwork though, but only transferred the money yesterday.
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