Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > All Miscellaneous questions > Travellers' questions that don't fit anywhere else
Travellers' questions that don't fit anywhere else This is an opportunity to ask any question, and post any notice you wish that doesn't fit into one of the other sections.
Photo by Marc Gibaud, Clouds on Tres Cerros and Mount Fitzroy, Argentinian Patagonia

25 years of HU Events


Destination ANYWHERE...
Adventure EVERYWHERE!




Photo by Marc Gibaud,
Clouds on Tres Cerros and
Mount Fitzroy, Argentinian Patagonia



Like Tree6Likes

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #11  
Old 21 Feb 2012
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Moscow
Posts: 1,117
Quote:
Originally Posted by warrigal 1 View Post
The seller has said it is clasiffied as a PIG, and it is now a light goods vehicle not a BUS, so it should be under 3.5 ton.

even with some help , I still have no quotes for insurnace as yet.

And as I have said before there is no time to archive all this on my arrival in the UK.

So at this point in time only one month away from travel time, I still have no title to the vehicle, Because I have no insurance, policy so title can be transfered.
I still have the problem with the coming MOT inspection April, and just getting away with not getting it done is not a situation I am prepared to take a chance on.

Then there is paying the next tax which I assume is dependant on the MOT inspection.
FFS..... SEPARATE THE ISSUES and deal with each in turn.

TAX.
Your opening post said "I have bought a van on ebay in the UK which is soon April 2012 to run out of MOT and tax. from then it needs the inspection get get back in MOT and TAX."

Tax belongs to the vehicle, not the Owner nor the Registered Keeper.
Unless the Seller cancels it for a refund (to get a bigger refund he would have done it 6 months ago is when you said you bought it) it just passes on with the vehicle just as much as does any petrol in the tank.

It would always run out at the end of a month - 30 April if what you say in Post No 1 is correct.

So tax is not a problem as you say you are coming to collect it in a months time. That gives you over 10 weeks (less a day) from now to collect it and get it out of the UK.

Once not on UK Public Roads it does not require TAX (but you should SORN it or declare it permanantly exported - see below)
END OF !

Next issue -

MOT.
MOT is identified to the vehicle, not any Owner. The piece of paper should just be handed over with the keys. Nothing else to do.

As above, you say it expires in April. This can be any date in April - we don't know which. Even so, you have a minimum of 6 weeks (less a day) of MOT before it runs out (possibly up to 10weeks less a day) and you are coming in a month's time.

If it runs out near the start of April this is not an immediate problem as you have the Tax. MOT databases are not immediately linked to roadside ANPR checks (yet!) unlike Tax and Insurance. Any penalty would be small and not restrict your journey unless a Police Officer then and there issues you with a Notice declaring the vehicle unsafe.

As with Tax, MOT is only necessary if the vehicle is used on UK Public Roads.
END OF !

Next issue-

REGISTERED KEEPER.
If you have an address, as you now say you have, get the seller to -
-complete your name & address on Part 6 of his V5C.
-copy a scan of your signature, or do something like it, in your signature section on Part 8.
-remove Section 10 to keep to give to you.
-send it off to DVLA today.

The self imposed DVLA target for sending a new V5C is 4 weeks so it should be waiting for you when you arrive.

You then have a document that you can use to take the vehicle into practically every other country in the World.
END OF !

Next issue-

DVLA.
By end April you will have the vehicle (out of UK), with you as its Registered Keeper and with V5C that will enable your travels elsewhere.

The tax expires and so you should then renew it (if using it on UK Public Roads) or make a SORN declaration (you can do it on-line if you have the V5C with you). That SORN runs out a year later and should be renewed then.

Longer term you will want to get off the Register. You do this by signing are returning Part 11 (Notification of permanent Export) or write telling them you have broken up the vehicle and no longer have it (as described in the very final paragraph on the new style pink V5C).
END OF !

Next issue-

DRIVING LICENCE.
As I said before, you are permitted to drive in UK on a Foreign Licence for a good few months - at least 6.
I believe you can drive PLG vehicles up to a declared unladen weight of 3.5 tons on a Car Licence (non automatic).
You check this out.
END OF !

Next issue-

INSURANCE.
The link I gave you should be able to sort this out, as can many others. Many on-line insurers, for ease of quick business, do not like anything unusual that requires more thought or effort on their part.

Keep trying and don't alert them to what you see are potential problems. Keep it simple yet correct.
You would have a UK Address and be Owner and Registered Keeper of a UK Registered Vehicle. No real problem other than cost due to lack of driving claims history. It can be done online with some Brokers who even issue Documents and Certificate of Insurance on line.

Any insurance MUST include minimum levels of insurance required by Law throughout EU (plus Norway, Switzerland & little bits more). The Certificate of Insurance will be acceptable proof by all Police there.
If going outside EU there will be facilities at or near the border to purchase local insurance.

This is what you have to organise yourself but outside that -
END OF !


I hope this is the end of the thread other than to see a post in April saying "SORTED!".
__________________________________________________ __________

To other HUBBers - unless I am glaringly incorrect, don't divert the thread with relatively insignificant detail of little practical consequence.
The guy needs to be pushed into believing, not frightened off.
He also needs to tell the Seller to stop w4nking him about with false info!
Encourage him. I'm exhausted!
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
Ecuador June 13-15
Bulgaria Mini: June 27-29
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Aug 14-17
Romania: Aug 22-24
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
New York: October 9-12 NEW!
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)

Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:41.