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So, what did we find out after the initial question was asked ?
The world is changing like it has always done.
People argue, like they have always done.
The climate change will influence the ways of the adventure rider, albeit not in dramatic ways. (unless you didn't count on mud in a previously drought stricken area and you never learned riding in mud  It might make throwing mud at each other even easier though ! )
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Originally Posted by Walkabout
I have read most of the links that you have posted in here so far; skim read in some cases + your blog (I wonder if anyone else has read that).
There are no inconsistencies IMO and I have learnt a bit about your part of the world (Montana for those who haven't indulged themselves).
Thanks!
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Thank you, if you dig through my travels are there as well.
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So, what did we find out after the initial question was asked ?
The world is changing like it has always done.
People argue, like they have always done.
The climate change will influence the ways of the adventure rider, albeit not in dramatic ways. (unless you didn't count on mud in a previously drought stricken area and you never learned riding in mud It might make throwing mud at each other even easier though ! ) |
I agree, however the question asked in the future how will our travels be effected?
Well according to Gore and crew, they already should have been, islands should have been swallowed up whole already. Thus far none of this has happened, the Ocean continues to rise at roughly 3 inches a year which it has done for a very long time.
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I believe the onus is on the denier/skeptics to provide evidence contrary to the established scientific beliefs.................but we'll just end up posting swathes of links no one will read on both sides of the debate
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couple things regarding this.
One as noted by Walkabout the link is supposedly to emissions leading to climate change, at least that was initially the argument, now it has broadened substantially beyond that emissions in the US at least are lower than they have been.
Two, I honestly quit reading the temperature readings when I found out the readings were beings messed with. If readings were not according to what they were supposed to be, they were adjusted, that is flat out screwing numbers. Another reason I came to the other side!
I would however thank you for your post, I love a debate based on data to back it up, very much appreciated 
With that said, I like the apocalypse nonsense, talk about adventure!
I wonder what the Visa requirements will be?
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This is the Best Proof that God Exists (in My Opinion)
There's a blog that claims to prove that God exists, even quotes some science, the authors written a book as well so it must be true 
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Did they quote the Higgs Boson as evidence? 
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The apocalypse fantasy adventure I imagine involves being Kevin Costner?
The trouble is, for everyone who imagines now great it would be to be Livingstone, there aren't the required 500 imaginistas willing to think of themselves hauling water on their heads. Every Napoleon fantacist requires a few hundred thousand willing to imagine standing in a fog of gunsmoke while ten thousand shot guns are fired randomly. We never imagine ourselves as the bloke in the red shirt no one knows stood next to Captain Kirk when it kicks off.
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Originally Posted by Dutchgit
So, what did we find out after the initial question was asked ?
The world is changing like it has always done.
People argue, like they have always done.
The climate change will influence the ways of the adventure rider, albeit not in dramatic ways. (unless you didn't count on mud in a previously drought stricken area and you never learned riding in mud It might make throwing mud at each other even easier though ! ) |
Dramatic? 
But it has been ... and WILL continue to be dramatic. We've already seen this throughout Latin America for decades. It only gets worse.
My experience may not be necessarily directly related to climate change but all kinds of events happened and WILL happen in future that will cause major disruptions for travelers. Climate Change will make these events more serious and more common ... and more dramatic.
I saw this during my short 7 years in the area. Massive mud slides and floods, bridges out, no water or power, major roads closed ... and ... no help!
Not for just a few days but sometimes MONTHS! Been there, seen it in person.
Man Made Climate change will most definitely worsen these events. They will likely (and are) be happening more frequently than ever before. Guaranteed.
Dramatic? Look around you ... and don't take your finger out of the dyke! 
But GO ... (go soon!) Do your trip the best you can! 
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Sticking your finger in a dyke can cause serious trouble or so I heard..
We will make that trip even if it's the last thing we do.
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Dramatic?
But it has been ... and WILL continue to be dramatic. We've already seen this throughout Latin America for decades. It only gets worse.
My experience may not be necessarily directly related to climate change but all kinds of events happened and WILL happen in future that will cause major disruptions for travelers. Climate Change will make these events more serious and more common ... and more dramatic.
I saw this during my short 7 years in the area. Massive mud slides and floods, bridges out, no water or power, major roads closed ... and ... no help!
Not for just a few days but sometimes MONTHS! Been there, seen it in person.
Man Made Climate change will most definitely worsen these events. They will likely (and are) be happening more frequently than ever before. Guaranteed.
Dramatic? Look around you ... and don't take your finger out of the dyke!
But GO ... (go soon!) Do your trip the best you can! |
It really looks very bleak! The Paris talks did more than nothing but a lot less than what's needed. The last time western civilization was faced with a urgent, real and existential threat the US answered it with the Manhattan Project, and we need another one for fossils fuels. Hard not to wonder now would nano-solar and geothermal technology world look if Bush et al had spent the trillion on research instead of smashing up Iraq?
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