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Hi Dave
That was a concern and thanks for the useful info about "walking wounded". The Hospital have agreed to strap him up and give him some strong painkillers to get through the flight and I will collect them from the Airport when they arrive in my mate's campervan.
Have got some good prices ranging between £55 to £70 each for one way flights via Easyjey, Ryanair and Jet 2, so they may be able to fly out this Saturday.
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Hi Dave
That was a concern and thanks for the useful info about "walking wounded". The Hospital have agreed to strap him up and give him some strong painkillers to get through the flight and I will collect them from the Airport when they arrive in my mate's campervan.
Have got some good prices ranging between £55 to £70 each for one way flights via Easyjey, Ryanair and Jet 2, so they may be able to fly out this Saturday.
Cheers
Chris
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Chris,
Get him to A&E asap on arrival.
Say nothing about where the accident occurred.
Just answer questions as circumspectly as possible.
A&E staff, in my experience, are very good about this aspect. Their function is to save life and limb and not be concerned about the cause, but medical diagnosis will be interested in the cause in as far as it assists with the diagnosis.
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Chris,
Get him to A&E asap on arrival.
Say nothing about where the accident occurred.
Just answer questions as circumspectly as possible.
A&E staff, in my experience, are very good about this aspect. Their function is to save life and limb and not be concerned about the cause, but medical diagnosis will be interested in the cause in as far as it assists with the diagnosis.
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And when at A and E, don't volunteer that injury happened a few days ago. I recall trying to check myself in once (can't exactly remember what I did: twisted knee?) and they asked when it happened and I said 2 days ago. They told me to get lost as the event has to have occurred within the last 24 hours for an A and E doctor to see me.
Good luck with sorting the situation.
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Good advice and I'll tell them that when we check them in. Just got a PM from a great chap saying he will ask a friend with a plane if he can go and fetch them at cost.
I think they are cleared for commercial travel, but it just goes to show what a great site this is and what fantastic people are linked to it!
Thanks to everyone.
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Just thought. My normal uk bike insurance does NOT cover events like track days. Also, many travel insurances don't cover injuries sustained from falling off a bike over 125cc. I haven't got the small print of my travel insurance to hand, but I'd be very surprised if track days are covered ("dangerous" activities/sports etc).
I like the earlier post about picking the man and his Blade up off the track and depositing him on a road 
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Hi Chris
I did ask Heidi ad she said the insurance company OK'd the motorcycle riding and have now given clearance for costs incurred to be paid. We have to remember that the Kiwi's are the most extreme people on the planet, so I'm sure they don't have the same molycoddled insurance terms that we get stuck with!
Glad you liked the Blade story, it always makes think how well humans can adapt and get out of situations!
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Thanks Carto and Welcome
Hi Carto
Very useful info and nice to have someone on the "inside" so to speak!
Yes, I remember that at the 2007 Centenary TT, the topic of "have you got health insurance?" kept coming up, but luckily got away unscathed that year and glad to know that it's back in place.
They seem to be a little easier on their customers in NZ and they have been cleared for treatment and hopefully flights too!
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Hi Chris
I did ask Heidi ad she said the insurance company OK'd the motorcycle riding and have now given clearance for costs incurred to be paid.
Glad you liked the Blade story, it always makes think how well humans can adapt and get out of situations!
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So, with regard to the points made by those employed in the UK medical world, the patient should have a back up plan to go for private medical treatment should the NHS not provide support, for whatever reason (one persons' view of an emergency is not necessarily that of the professionals).
As for the anecdote about track day riding and removing crashed bikes onto public roads: this type of tale has been circulating for many years. It is also said that the insurance companies have representation at track days who take note of the road registered machines being used on track to prevent this concept of insurance fraud.
In general, there is much increased attention to preventing all forms of insurance fraud in the UK.
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Hi Chris
I did ask Heidi ad she said the insurance company OK'd the motorcycle riding and have now given clearance for costs incurred to be paid. We have to remember that the Kiwi's are the most extreme people on the planet, so I'm sure they don't have the same molycoddled insurance terms that we get stuck with!
Glad you liked the Blade story, it always makes think how well humans can adapt and get out of situations!
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The blade story is funny....but, let's be honest, it's fraud. P.S I'm not a totally honest person...just jumping on the pedant boat for five mins.
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Regarding Reciprocal Health Agreements with the UK, you can find the information here
Non-EEA country-by-country guide - Healthcare abroad - NHS Choices
Guess who I work for!
One that used to catch a lot of people out at this time of year is the fact that the reciprocal health agreement with the Isle of Man lapsed for a while, that could cause a lot of expense if you fell off when visiting the TT and didn't have "overseas" health insurance.
Luckily (for us Brits) it's back in place!
Regarding travel insurance, always look closely as the "not insured if riding a bike over 125cc" clause is usually in regard to bikes that you hire. My policy has a completely separate clause that states I am covered on any size bike as long as it's my own bike. The two clauses are in completely separate parts of the policy, so not obvious at first.
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And when at A and E, don't volunteer that injury happened a few days ago. I recall trying to check myself in once (can't exactly remember what I did: twisted knee?) and they asked when it happened and I said 2 days ago. They told me to get lost as the event has to have occurred within the last 24 hours for an A and E doctor to see me.
Good luck with sorting the situation.
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For what it is worth, my broken arm received surgery two weeks after the break occurred, 4 days after I referred myself to A&E and two days after I was admitted to a ward bed. I was discharged from the hosp 3 days after the day of the operation and, at present, I still receive physio 4 years after the event.
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Reason: clarify the date of discharge from hospital
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For what it is worth, my broken arm received surgery two weeks after the break occurred, 4 days after I referred myself to A&E and two days after I was admitted to a ward bed. I was discharged from the hosp after 3 days and, at present, I still receive physio 4 years after the event.
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Apologies to anyone who is an A and E receptionist (or works at Huddersfield Royal Infirmary...), but it's probably down to the caring nature (or not) or the local NHS Trust policies that the "pitbull at the door" has to/chooses to implement. In my experience, once the receptionist has been negotiated, the care from the doctors and nurses in NHS establishments has always been 100%.
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Apologies to anyone who is an A and E receptionist (or works at Huddersfield Royal Infirmary...), but it's probably down to the caring nature (or not) or the local NHS Trust policies that the "pitbull at the door" has to/chooses to implement. In my experience, once the receptionist has been negotiated, the care from the doctors and nurses in NHS establishments has always been 100%.
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have to admit, your original post suprised me. receptionists don't have the power to turn people away. Even some triage nurses are reluctant and where they do have authority to turn people away it is within very strict, clearly defined protocols. The best you can generally do is advise people on a more appropriate course of action.
2 days is recent enough to be seen in A&E, indeed, for minor injuries we would generally expect people to have done the basics like taking pain killers and resting the limb to see if it got better.
The line on what is appropriate or not is a grey one but I would say around 40% of what presents to A&E shouldn't be there, for example 6 month history of non traumatic back pain, or my all time fave, someone who called an ambulance out for a paper cut!! But for your injury and time scale I would have said A&E was an entirely appropriate place to be.
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How about an update on the injured? It is my opinion that peace and quiet rather than stress contribute to the healing of the soul, mind and body.
Are Deane and Heidi remaining in Croatia or being evacuated?
Perhaps, obtaining funding for medical treatment from Deane's contracted private insurer, while he is a foreigner in Croatia might be less stressful then the proposed alternative. Once the Deane qualifies for British care the private insurer might or might not bail. Please check fine print on policy.
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