Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Planning, Trip > Staying Healthy on the Road
Staying Healthy on the Road Medical info, e.g. malaria, vaccinations, travel medical tips, medical insurance, where to find a doctor.
Photo by Bettina Hoebenreich, At the foot of the Bear Glaciers, eternal ice, British Columbia, Canada

Adventure is what you make it

Photo by Bettina Hoebenreich, at the foot of the Bear Glaciers, British Columbia, Canada.



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Like Tree12Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 29 Oct 2012
colebatch's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London / Moscow
Posts: 1,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie View Post
The "London" in your header is a real givaway there. Compared to Watneys Red Barrel at four quid a pint, in the rest of the world is indeed cheap and probably safer !

Andy
In Russia, you probably pay about 60-80 rubles for a half litre of lipton iced tea (which is everywhere). Local bottled water or , is more like 40-50 rubles for half a litre.

I've not found anywhere in Russia or the stans to get a quality Westvleteren or Tripel Karmeliet
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 29 Oct 2012
Genghis9021's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chiang Mai, Thailand
Posts: 193
Quote:
Originally Posted by colebatch View Post
I've not found anywhere in Russia or the stans to get a quality Westvleteren or Tripel Karmeliet
Hilarious whinging !

Personally I was devastated that the Freddo shop didn't open until after my departure time from Dushanbe. How do people expect one to carry on with a shot ! ? !

The horror . . .
__________________
Orange, it's the new black.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 27 May 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
As I couldn't find the answer in the search I'll resurect this oldie

I don't like pop and aren't really struck with tap water that's heated up in a camel back all day. I can however make a glass of tea and drink it over hours and hours, hot, warm, cold. The plan then is to make a few pints of tea on a morning, let it cool off while packing, then get it into a camel back for the rest of the day.

Has anyone tried this? Does over hot drinks or stuff that stains ruin the bladder in anyones experience?

Cheers

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 27 May 2013
Toyark's Avatar
-
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,344
Smile

Camelback bladders are tough.They have been used to carry fuel too but you could ruin it over time.
I prefer to stop, take a break and brew up mint tea Andy. It's deliciously refreshing and calming for your battered digestive sytem too.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 27 May 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
Indeed. I did once have a long chat with a French border policeman and his spaniel about my store of cammomile. Age and the vibrations of a v twin make comfort breaks a must, but a quick slurp at traffic lights does seem to add additional comfort.

I also have scary memories of Morocco. Having failed to drink enough in the day my thirst and typical lack of self control resulted in an early night and cheap hangover. That first cold one tasted nice. Ever seen that old film ice cold in Alex?

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 27 May 2013
Toyark's Avatar
-
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,344
Talking

Yes. Good classic with a frothy ending!
I've rigged a long tube with a bite valve on my MSR dromadery so that I can take sips whilst riding but I do enjoy ( read: need!) a ( or a few!) small comfort stops too so might as well make a brew pref. somewhere with a nice view. Very 'Zen' moments
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 28 May 2013
colebatch's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London / Moscow
Posts: 1,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
.
I prefer to stop, take a break and brew up mint tea Andy. It's deliciously refreshing and calming for your battered digestive sytem too.
And ... an empire was built on that !
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 28 May 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Wessex, UK
Posts: 2,136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie View Post
Ever seen that old film ice cold in Alex?
Aparently that bar scene took 6 or 7 takes at the end of which John Mills was completely pissed
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 25 Sep 2013
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 5
My experience is that no matter how much I drink, water just fills my stomach up and I dehydrate. If I mix sport drink with the water at about 50/50 or less then I seem to absorb the water quite well. Straight sport drink makes me thirsty. Water makes me bloated.

Not "adventure" riding, but trail riding in 40-50 degree temps.


=
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 25 Sep 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,131
Quote:
Originally Posted by samueleuk View Post
Just to clarify that I don't advise to use sport drinks. I am just curious to know if and how they are used by adventure bike riders.
Try buying it in Timbucktoo?

And if you mix it with water .. and drink it later .. the residue promotes the growth of bugs in the container .. not good. Plain water is simpler, greatly reduces problems with bugs in the container and cheaper. Don't know how stored tea will go... any tea drinking bugs?

If you need more thingys - get them in your food .. where they should be. Bananas are good for bicycle riders - containing potassium etc and fairly available in hot climates.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 25 Mar 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie View Post
I can however make a glass of tea and drink it over hours and hours, hot, warm, cold. The plan then is to make a few pints of tea on a morning, let it cool off while packing, then get it into a camel back for the rest of the day.

Has anyone tried this? Does over hot drinks or stuff that stains ruin the bladder in anyones experience?
We often make several liters of green tea early in the morning and let it continue to steep and cool throughout the day. Klean Kanteens are perfect for this.

Cheap packets of rehydration salts are available in pharmacies everywhere, even small towns in Africa and Asia. On a bicycle this is critical. On a motorcycle, equally so as the wind evaporates sweat which is normally how we know we need to hydrate.

Carrying adequate clean water is also critical. I like the MSR Dromedary bags and the bombproof Katadyn Pocket filter. A piece of inner-tube rubber is great for blocking the sink.

__________________
Latin America & Africa by Volkswagen | Southeast Asia by Bicycle | India by Royal Enfield (ugh!)
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 25 Mar 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
I remember this thread

To answer my own question in case anyone else finds it useful, tea stains water bladders but otherwise does no obvious harm unless you count hiding age discolouration. It looks a bit yakky getting clean water from a yellowed bladder, but I think just a case of carry two or knowing what stained it and therefore not caring.

The Klean kanteens look useful

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 22 Apr 2014
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: mostly Salford now
Posts: 95
when I am in India I either use filtered water by my katadyn, or my my sister in law's UV sterilizer, failing that is bottled water!

re-hydration sachets cost pennies in India too! I sometimes use cordial too!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 22 Apr 2014
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
Posts: 70
I just fill my camelbak with water. Water does get awful when it is like 40 C so sometimes I mix a weak concentration of Oros in there. This is sweet orange concentrate. Not full strength as the sugar makes you more thirsty. Just a bit to add a bit to add some flavour. I get plenty of salt from the biltong I eat while riding.

Sports drinks, electrolytes... bah. poofter stuff
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 16 Jun 2014
Wheelie's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 658
Being a long distance rider, riding long days, days at end, I've found a routine which makes this easy and enjoyable. Part of this is keeping a constant flow of fluids.

If on any longer day's ride, I allways get out of the saddle every hour or so, just for a minute or five at most. Every other stop I try to allign with a fuel station to tank up, and the stop usually lasts a little longer, and I may treat myself for a coke or something.

At every stop I drink some water and pour some over myself if it is hot. I try to avoid big culps of cold drink to avoid upsetting my stomach. I usually also have a bite of something salty and/or sweet, wether a PBJ sandwich or simply a small piece of candy or a handful of peanuts. The snacks are meant as a treat and for energy, well knowing that the salts, sugars and minerals are good for keeping me hydrated as well. Hydrating a lot in one go is not good, you need a steady flow. So this ritual, keeps me enregized for sixteen hour riding days if I have to. I try to avoid alcohol, coffee or tea... not so much because it dehydrates me, but because it makes me have to piss all the time, screwing with my routine and my mojo... Once I get where I'm going, it is bottoms up of anything.

Remember it is not only the temparature that dehydrate, but also the speed of travel (blowing away your sweat, making you sweat more). Giving the body a few minutes to cool properly can't be bad, right? Think about it, if the air temp is hotter than body temp, the faster you ride, the hotter you will get.

I have a camel back but don't use it. I really enjoy my little routine of getting out of the saddle. The camel back could tempt me to push my 60-90 minutes to the double, and half way through the day I would flatline. Also, why deal with the camel backs when you've got bottles that you can just toss out and never have to fill or clean?

As for sport drinks? I would only drink it if I liked the flavor... as for energy, rehydration... waste of money.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buying Used Bike in Santiago Chile lachy SOUTH AMERICA 187 5 Dec 2023 14:53
Buying and registering a motorcycle in Chile timyarb Trip Paperwork 16 2 Jan 2018 19:55
Information wanted from experienced bikers in South America joentje100 SOUTH AMERICA 35 1 Jan 2010 04:00
Looking for some help in getting started TotalTomination SOUTH AMERICA 20 30 Oct 2009 18:02

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insuranceā„¢ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 16:32.