Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > South America
South America Topics specific to South America only.
Photo by Marc Gibaud, Clouds on Tres Cerros and Mount Fitzroy, Argentinian Patagonia

The only impossible journey
is the one
you never begin

25 years of HU Events


Destination ANYWHERE...
Adventure EVERYWHERE!



Photo by Marc Gibaud,
Clouds on Tres Cerros and
Mount Fitzroy, Argentinian Patagonia



Like Tree31Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25 Nov 2016
Snakeboy's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
Posts: 1,559
Well - as for now I have been visiting 5 different insurance companies/offices from Concepsion south to Valdivia and none of them could offer me any insurance at all. Not for Chile, not for Argentina and not for several countries in SA. If it continues like this I wount be able to make it even to Argentina...
__________________
In the end everything will be fine. If its not fine its not the end....
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 26 Nov 2016
BruceP's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St Helens
Posts: 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camomillo View Post
They sell it, now you need a soapex and it's for foreign vehicles. But it's only valid where you drive in Chile.


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
To back that up you need to say where, when and what it was bought for.

This is not the experience of my self and many others.
__________________
--

http://www.ytc1.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 2 Dec 2016
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sondrio (Italy)
Posts: 30
Third party insurance that covers several countries in SA

After spending some days on web, mail etc I got my insurance for Argentina from Atm seguro.
Some travellers gave me other contacts, but it would take too many time and money.
While I was in Chile I wrote to Atm seguro in Salta, but they didn't succed in selling the policy. They gave me this contact, I had to call and then we did all via mail (payment, sending docs, sending back the signed ones) and I got the basic insurance in half day, so we could go to Jama Pass the same day (30nov2016)! Great job!!!
I also suggested to take away the 'dni' from the chat, otherwise non Argentinian persons can not use it, and maybe organize a selling online.
The insurance is for one year and costs 180ars/month. Once I do not need it anymore I have to write an email and stop it.

atmbasesanmartin@hotmail.com
011 47135226
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 28 Sep 2017
gR gR is offline
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 75
My bike insurance in Bolivia is from La Boliviana Ciacruz:
http://www.lbc.bo/CIACRUZ/default.aspx
Whenever I travel over borders they give me a letter that confirms coverage for most of the South American countries. Not sure if you can buy insurance through them if you are not a resident of Bolivia, but I kind of get the impression that you might be able to.

FWIW, I Wouldn't ride down in South America without insurance. If you're in an accident that involves a death, regardless of fault, you will probably go straight to jail till everything gets sorted out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakeboy View Post
Hi folks

I know there are many similar threads out here but none of them seem to be up to date. I have just picked up my bike in Valparaiso and will need third party insurance that covers most of the countries in SA, or as many as possible.
Well a good start would be an insurance that covers Chile and Argentina.

I have been to several insurance companies and asked but none have even showed the slightest interest for even a chilean coverage only. I have tried Falavella, BCI and Mapfre but it was like trying to sell fridges in Antartica or heating blankets in Sahara.

Any ideas or suggestions are highly appriciated!

Thanks in advance!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2 Jan 2018
Snakeboy's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
Posts: 1,559
Ok - here we go again...

I parked my bike in Uruguay last September and went back home to Europe but have now returned back to south-America to pick up my bike again and continue my travel. The insurance I purchased in Puerto Varas, Chile is expired long time ago and I need a new MERCOSUR insurance. Im for the moment in Montevideo but will also visit Buenos Aires before picking up the bike. So the question is:

Had anyone bought MERCOSUR insurance in Montevideo or Buenos Aires lately or maybe even online? Or do anyone know anything about this and can point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance!
__________________
In the end everything will be fine. If its not fine its not the end....
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 14 Jan 2018
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Neiva Colombia
Posts: 257
dam paperwork

Hello
I have a Colombian Cedula de Extranjeria temporal
and a Colombian registered moto in my name with SOAT
I am planning to travel around SA this year
Is my insurance good to go anywhere in SA
Xfiltrate you probably know more than the tourists
I don't understand anything about this foreigner crap
am i good to go?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 13 Feb 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Curitiba, PR, Brazil
Posts: 3
There are three insurances in South America: carta verde (Green letter) to Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brasil, SOAPEX to Chile, e SOAT to Peru and Colombia. The insurance companys sell the insurance for a determined time period.


Enviado do meu iPad usando Tapatalk
__________________
http://motoexplorer.com.br
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 13 Feb 2018
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NSW Australia - but never there
Posts: 1,235
Quote:
The other topic is: what is the reason fot having it. Riding a heavy bike especially in cities is like a rodeo sometimes (except Chile, Arg and Urug.) so having something like 3rd party insuranse can lower adrenaline level sometimes
and also said to be good for keeping you out of prison if you have an accident involving death or injury
__________________
Tony
Click here for Travel Photos & Travel Map
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 13 Feb 2018
Snakeboy's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renato_CWB View Post
There are three insurances in South America: carta verde (Green letter) to Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brasil, SOAPEX to Chile, e SOAT to Peru and Colombia. The insurance companys sell the insurance for a determined time period.


Enviado do meu iPad usando Tapatalk
So can you give me a name and an emailadress for an Insurance company that can sell me a valid third party insurance for a bike plated in Europe? Valid for several countries - I will be travelling Brazil, Bolivia, Argentina, maybe Chile and Peru.

Thanks in advance!
__________________
In the end everything will be fine. If its not fine its not the end....
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 13 Feb 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Curitiba, PR, Brazil
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakeboy View Post
So can you give me a name and an emailadress for an Insurance company that can sell me a valid third party insurance for a bike plated in Europe? Valid for several countries - I will be travelling Brazil, Bolivia, Argentina, maybe Chile and Peru.

Thanks in advance!
I read all this thread about insurance in South America but I'm not sure if the HDI of Chile sells to nonresidents. Under the general terms it is said that if your license is not from Chile, you can only hire the insurance in the stores of the company. For us residents it is very easy to hire. Here in Brazil most insurers offer coverage for South America, but it is still necessary to acquire insurance against third parties for Mercosur (Green Card) and for Chile (SOAPEX).

I did a search on the internet and I found these two places:

1)Overland Insurance - Overlanding Association

South America
In South America it is possible to obtain MERCOSUR insurance that would normally cover Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, and Brazil. However if you ask, it is sometimes possible to include other associated countries like Bolivia & Peru.
You can purchase MERCOSUR from Magallanes, gisela@speiserseguros.com.ar, integrityseguros.com.ar, atmseguros.com, Allianz or Klaus & Claudia Schubert ( info@abgefahren.info).
For other countries you would obtain third party insurance on entry.
Ecuador
In 2015 Ecuador introduced a new state sponsored vehicle insurance. During the transition period it was not possible or required to obtain insurance. Dec 2015, Insurance was not required for foreign vehicles, nor could it be purchased at the border.


2) https://ivssuk.com/foreign-vehicle-motor-insurance/

I hope it may have helped a little. Despite the large influx of motorcycles around the world, it seems that insurance companies have not yet seen the opportunity and do not advertise their services either.

Anyway, I can contact my insurance broker to see if he knows any other way.

Another thing, I have traveled several times through Argentina, Chile and Uruguay and only once have asked for the policy. But this is not to say that it is not necessary. As it is known, shit happens!
__________________
http://motoexplorer.com.br
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 13 Feb 2018
Snakeboy's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renato_CWB View Post
I read all this thread about insurance in South America but I'm not sure if the HDI of Chile sells to nonresidents. Under the general terms it is said that if your license is not from Chile, you can only hire the insurance in the stores of the company. For us residents it is very easy to hire. Here in Brazil most insurers offer coverage for South America, but it is still necessary to acquire insurance against third parties for Mercosur (Green Card) and for Chile (SOAPEX).

I did a search on the internet and I found these two places:

1)Overland Insurance - Overlanding Association

South America
In South America it is possible to obtain MERCOSUR insurance that would normally cover Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, and Brazil. However if you ask, it is sometimes possible to include other associated countries like Bolivia & Peru.
You can purchase MERCOSUR from Magallanes, gisela@speiserseguros.com.ar, integrityseguros.com.ar, atmseguros.com, Allianz or Klaus & Claudia Schubert ( info@abgefahren.info).
For other countries you would obtain third party insurance on entry.
Ecuador
In 2015 Ecuador introduced a new state sponsored vehicle insurance. During the transition period it was not possible or required to obtain insurance. Dec 2015, Insurance was not required for foreign vehicles, nor could it be purchased at the border.


2) https://ivssuk.com/foreign-vehicle-motor-insurance/

I hope it may have helped a little. Despite the large influx of motorcycles around the world, it seems that insurance companies have not yet seen the opportunity and do not advertise their services either.

Anyway, I can contact my insurance broker to see if he knows any other way.

Another thing, I have traveled several times through Argentina, Chile and Uruguay and only once have asked for the policy. But this is not to say that it is not necessary. As it is known, shit happens!
Thanks for answer and help. As I mentioned above I have chatted online with HDI Seguros in Chile and they cannot offer other that Soap/soapex valid for Chile only. So HDI is out of my book... I have sent a mail to Integrity Seguros and inquired about a third party insurance thats valid for several south-American countries. So I just have to wait for an answer.

Im in Brazil for the moment and a brazilian friend of mine have been in contact with several brazilian insurance companies but none of them could offer any insurance for an european citizen on a european plated bike.

Its not the police thing that bothers me, I have travelled around the world for more than 3,5 years now and so far I have never ever been asked to show proof of insurance anywhere. But for my own sake I want one, if a child runs out in the front of me and I (God forbid that it ever happens) and I hit and injury that child or something similar happens. I would feel so more relaxed to have an insurance in such an imagined incident.
__________________
In the end everything will be fine. If its not fine its not the end....
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 14 Feb 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 12
Insurance and port costs

Hi Snakeboy,
Having read this thread I realise I will soon be in the same boat. Requiring insurance for the whole of SA, if possible. So like you said one doesn't have to chase ones tail all over just to find it in each country...boring....if you manage to find I would love to know. Plus my bike soon arrives at Santiago and I am wondering what sort of fees I am likely going to be stung for to get it out of customs?..any advice muchly appreciated.
Regards mate.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 14 Feb 2018
Snakeboy's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by nwildsmith View Post
Hi Snakeboy,
Having read this thread I realise I will soon be in the same boat. Requiring insurance for the whole of SA, if possible. So like you said one doesn't have to chase ones tail all over just to find it in each country...boring....if you manage to find I would love to know. Plus my bike soon arrives at Santiago and I am wondering what sort of fees I am likely going to be stung for to get it out of customs?..any advice muchly appreciated.
Regards mate.
I shipped my bike into Valparaiso by sea november 2016 and yes there were a good bit of «fees» to be paid as the customs were on strike at that time, thus to get the bike through customs «fees» were needed. Cannot remember how much extra costs it was but it was not cheap...

I initially were able to get insurance for many countries down in Puerto Varas in southern Chile - as you can see in an earlier post. If youre going in that direction it might be an alternative.

I will try to post updates if I am able to get any insurances valid for several countries. I also sent a mail to two of the other places Renato CWB mentioned last aftenoon - so Im awaiting answers.
__________________
In the end everything will be fine. If its not fine its not the end....
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 14 Feb 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
Quote:
But for my own sake I want one, if a child runs out in the front of me and I (God forbid that it ever happens) and I hit and injury that child or something similar happens. I would feel so more relaxed to have an insurance in such an imagined incident.
Just don't sound right to me
So its ok to hit a kid if you are insured ?????

Bad choice of words IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 14 Feb 2018
Snakeboy's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuff Said View Post
Just don't sound right to me
So its ok to hit a kid if you are insured ?????

Bad choice of words IMO.
Im asking about a third party insurance - that will cover such things as hospital treatment and health expenses etc for a child in case of an accident I could be involved in. And yes I would feel a lot better with such an insurance knowing thst in case of an accident with me and a child involved the child will get adequate hospital treatment and health expenses covered than without an insurance.

If that sounds terrible to you I think theres something wrong with your perception of the concept of having a third party insurance.

If you have constructive things to contribute to this thread as for example where to get a third party insurance that covers several countries of south-America it will be appriciated.
__________________
In the end everything will be fine. If its not fine its not the end....
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 7 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 7 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Balkans Insurance - Here's the story, with details & sample documents PanEuropean Trip Paperwork 30 8 Jul 2023 06:19
Cheap motorcycle insurance for Argentina (and other MercoSur countries) everson65 Trip Paperwork 13 21 May 2023 17:10
Comprehensive Guide To West Africa - Without Carnet Wanted sub-Saharan Africa 48 17 Jan 2020 21:50
Travel Insurance policy includes 3rd party liability baz870 Trip Paperwork 4 9 Sep 2013 20:47
Third party insurance Southern/West Africa Anacondor sub-Saharan Africa 1 16 Nov 2012 10:29

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
Ecuador June 13-15
Bulgaria Mini: June 27-29
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Aug 14-17
Romania: Aug 22-24
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
New York: October 9-12 NEW!
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

2026 Confirmed Dates:
(get your holidays booked!)

Virginia: April 23-26
Queensland: May 1-4
CanWest: July 9-12

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)

Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 23:28.