The ones online i saw for sale were reg'd 5/04 and 08/04 would that put them after the reliability problems earlier KTM's had (sorry if this is wrong, I'm not well read on the KTM history, just something I remember reading)

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There are only 2004 models on the market, this is when the army started ordering them and they sold a lot of surplus ones to dealers last year. I think even the "new" ones are unused from 2004. Not sure about reliability problems before 2004 (I'm not a KTM expert), but I assume the army wouldn't have ordered them if they had shown reliability problems during the test period.

Hey,

Nice! I'm looking for a more off-road expedition addition for my transalp... . I was thinking about a DR 650 SE or XT 600 or something... . I might check one of these out though. They seem pretty much ready to go.

Any ideas about leg room on these bikes? I don't like em too short... . (Low saddle is not necesarily a plus on those long rides...)

Thanks!

Rob

My sister is a captain in the RLC and had to do her bike test, she did it in the army and all on a KTM EXC, I wonder if its the same as that.... Interesting, I'll have to ask....

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The Dutch army have them also (bought then together withe the german army. (we have more than 100 bikes bought)
Reson in NL was the simple technick and service fron KTM, they said...

These loko super super value. Shame about the plastic panniers...bound to get trashed. Eveyrthing else looks spot on.

Anyone know what the service interval is between oil changes/engine rebuilds (some of the KTM offroad bikes are like 20 hours or every 2/3 days in our shoes)

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Joe

Aha,

I checked with Peer on the oil change intervals already, and that should be 5000km. I'd hope with the mildly tuned engine it would last a while. Being an LC4, you can probably slot in a 640 if the engine goes after a while...

Why would the plastic bags go sooner? I would expect they are more robust then most aluminium containers... .

;-)
Rob

I have crashed a couple of times now and those Hepco&Becker plastic panniers have been really (unexpectedly) good. Only scratches, structurally there is no damage.

KTM EXC models are a 2 stroke enduro racer (in australia)

I have doubts about KTM parts available worldwide...

Wishing to buy a 400 cc. I guess a Yam or Suzuki has passed the tests.
Users says KTM has more vibration ! ?

I don't know if this KTM LC4 Mil is available in TR ?

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Samy,
Just buy one in Germany and ride it home: not too easy with the previous information about the servicing and registration, but an export plate would deal with the latter - all part of the adventure!!

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i had a similar bike years ago, a ktm lc4 lse, s reg it was. practicly the same as a 640 but with a sleaved down barrel i think. the low seat came from shorter travel suspension and using 17 and 19 in wheels. it got used a lot for trail riding but was a bit heavy. sold it to a girl who rode from london to capetown on it and she had no props apart from a fork seal. i loved it and always wished id kept it as an overland bike....

When i was in the Army we had the old bomadears then went to the MT350 then 500s all had a Rotax engine re badged to Harley Davidson then I think back to Rotax.
The only problem with them was how high as im only 5ft 5!

How high is the KTM?

I would be very intresetd have looked @ ex brit MOD bikes, after using them for yeas but can tell you they are a pig to start the MOD had the Starter removed??
have a look at these the best feture on the Amy bikes is the SA 80 holder on the front forks good for the sunday paper,
If any one is thinking of getting 1 of the MT make sure the cases are at the back NOT the front or you will have to hunt for the frames for them,
In my reg we did a few modifercations & had 2 jerrry cans at the rear & cases @ the front SA80 case was removed and mounted on the handle bars, will look & see if I can find any photos of me on one of ours on Exercise, or when i was in Iraqc

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I was really taken by the mil spec KTMs in this thread when I was looking for a winter hack/trail bike and ended up with a standard orange LC4 400 from 2000 and just 6000 miles (off ebay!).

I'm 5'7" with a 30" inside leg and struggle with some of the other trail bikes out there. I have a 950SM which although lower than the LC4 is harder to manage as the suspension is firmer and the seat wider. My LC4 on 21/18" wheels is about 890mm tall but as it compresses so much when I get one (chunky) leg over it, I've not had a problem.

I have a set of Pirelli knobbly tyres, a bash guard and lower gearing to put on this weekend and then I'm going to give this trail riding thing a go!

Seat:

cheapest option: get a used sheep skin baby cart liner off ebay (~5 EUR). Worked for me all the way to Nepal. Alternatively take the seat to any upholsterer to redo the cushion. Gel inserts are great for continental climates, but can become a bit stiff below freezing and a little toasty in the desert ...

Gauges:

- Overheating is not a problem on the KTM Mil. If you intend to use it only for stop and go in very hot cities, fit a second fan and put it on a switch.
- Empty gas: errr... hardly any bike has a fuel gauge, let alone an accurate one, especially in this price class and on an enduro. But you have the reserve and the trip counter which you zero when you refuel, so you know exactly how much mileage you have left. Easy and the same as any other enduro.
- Battery/alternator: even rarer to find on a production bike than the fuel gauge and of little practical use as the battery will be dead by then ... take a cheapo multimeter instead if you must

If you want gauges for the above, and want it OEM, then swap the bike for a GS or a big adventure :P Alternatively, put on a rallye computer with the required sensors, but with the whole shebang we're talking 300-500 EUR. I am just converting my tach to a rallye computer (SIxO Homepage), but not because it's really neccessary, but because I'm back home and fiddling with the bike eases the desire to set off again. (plus the analogue tach cable broke again, and I'm fed up with it ...). The Touratech IMO (as found on the KTM Adventures) are another, more expensive, option (if you want comparable features). For just a digital tach that fits the original housing, try the MAE-Tach of the SXC/EXC models, but it won't give you the gauges you are after.

Headlight: stick in a HID conversion kit. Not road legal in most western european countries (UK is a different story), but who cares once you have departed ... Alternatively, rob a bank and spend 350 EUR on the Touratech one. Don't use higher wattage bulbs - stuff will smolder and melt, and the stator is already weak as it is.