Not sure whether they really produced a proper military model, my guess would be that they painted one green and expected to win the bid because it is a BMW and the Germany army would buy a bike produced in Germany.

To complete the irony word has it that the Austrian army went for the F650 GS ...

But I've never seen one, nor their specs

hahahah ... mind you, I bet the German Army contract was bigger

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Peer is more ore less right, only changes to the standard model are a engine crash-bar, panniers, black color AND an additional headlight on top of the front fender!!
This model already competed against the KTM in 2001, but was -back then- only purchased by the Danish and Swiss army (seemingly).

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Maybe nowadays the 2-cylinder GS is in discussion, does anybody knows more details???

Greets
Jörn ---still a KTM freak---

I like it, at least as a more road biased ride. Probably better for Western Europe than the KTM, although I'd prefer the latter on anything but tarmac. The additional light is the coolest one I'ver seen! Can you buy these bikes anywhere? If so, maybe you should start a thread on it in the Beemer section. Would still keep my KTM though...

....Swiss Army ordered the F 650 GS also....

I want that extra light on my KTM! That's one of the biggest griefs of the little machine. Been trying to come up with a good solution for quite some time now ...

By the way, I finally got around to taking a pic of the ignition cable that activates the ignition position I (more info read above Post#66). Since I got quite a few messages about it, I'll post it here. On my bike the orange cable in the pic below (see red arrow), had been disconnected to disable the 'cloaky' ignition setting.

I'm still looking at getting one of these, a couple of questions:

1) what is the typical fuel range of these given the tank size and mileage? Someone posted that it "should be" 300 km, which seemed a bit short to me--can anyone confirm?

2) Also, I'm confused about the seat height--Popex reports that the seat height is 890mm, which is taller than a R1200GS, but someone else said that they are 180cm and they can easily flat-foot the bike. I am about 190cm and would prefer the bike to be as tall as possible, but just trying to understand...

I read from Sirakor's post that the tell tale signs of bad rocker arm rollers are checked by checking valve lash... How does one check "valve lash"?

Also how does the bike act differently if the rocker arm rollers are going bad?

An indicator of rocker arm rollers going bad is a relatively large increase in valve lash over a relatively short period in time. Generally valve lash tends to decrease with time (slowly), so obvious increases are something to watch out for. Valve lash is checked with a set of feeler gauges, take off the tank, breather hose and fan on the left side, unscrew the capacitor on the right, unhook the decompression cable, make sure the decompression lever is back all the way down, unscrew the spark plug, bring the engine to top dead center (very simple on the KTM, read below), ideally lock engine at top dead center with the crank shaft screw (special KTM part of make yourself), take off the valve covers (flat ratchet combo spanners like the Gedore 7R work very well here), slide in your feeler gauges. Straight gauges are near impossible to use, either buy the Porsche type gauges, or buy a cheap set, take out the individual gauges and bend them in a kind of Z like shape, then it should be easy. But if you've never done this, you should really get someone to show you, or at least buy a maintenance manual. I believe there also is a valve inspection thread in the LC4 index over on advrider. You should know what you are doing though, especially if you adjust valve lash, because there is a potential for messing things up. Once you know how, it's easy though.

Now valve lash is only an indicator, and if you have no idea how big the valve lash was previously, then I'm not sure how helpful it will be (unless it's huge ...). To be 100% sure you need to take off the cylinder head and inspect the rollers. I would very strongly recommend doing this before a big trip. Inspect rocker arm rollers, cam bearings etc and replace if in doubt! If left too long, you will need not only new bearings but a new cam as well ...

The only other thing that comes to mind regarding funky noises out of gear would be the crank/bearing ... But as I said, there is no way to diagnose things via the web.

Finally, top dead center on the KTM Mil the easy way: Center stand, fifth gear, turn rear wheel forward very slowly until your hear the auto-decompressor (loud-ish "clack" sound) kick in. After that keep turning the rear wheel forward very very slowly and look at the stator on the right hand side (little glass window). As soon as the dead center marking reaches the window and is vertical in the window, you have reached top dead center. Watch out it's only a short way from when the auto-deco clicks, if you go too far, the next time the mark comes up, it's the other dead center. Double check with a screw driver or similar that the piston is at the top AND you can see the crank mark (where the fixing screw goes) AND check by hand that the valves (both inlet and outlet) have a tiny play to them. If they sit rock solid, either you messed up finding top dead center, or the manual decompression lever is not all the way back down.

Edit: by the way, valve lash on the KTM Mil should be 0.20 mm for both in- and outlet. Just in case you get hold of a maintenance manual for a LC4 620/640/etc, which will tell you something less, like 0.18 or 0.15 mm

This thread definitely needs more photos pleeze!!!

I'm thinking of going to Germany to buy one of these bikes for a trip later this year. Has anyone bought one and brought it back to the UK yet please? I'd like a bit of advice, customs and duty etc.
Also... If I get a van to get one... should I buy 2 or 3 and sell the others here with the number plates & MOT sorted? Is anyone interseted in that idea?

I'm thinking of going at about Easter time. Am going to ask a German friend near Hamburg to go to the shop to check the paperwork and so on...

Cheers
Col

There shouldn't be any duty or customs fee, since both Germany and the UK (whether you like it or not) are in the EU. I registered an English bike in Germany a few years ago and it was no problem. Best to ask the DVLA what kind of paperwork you need to register it (probably only the German papers) and a garage doing MOTs whether you have to do any modifications (I needed a new headlight for registering my English bike in Germany because of the beam direction, the speedo was fine because it was in km/h and mph).

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-400-mil-56240

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