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I'm quite excited about these, not least the 10 bhp hike in power over the BMW single.

Also the F700GS, but that's just me....
Not 10 extra hp, 10% more than the xc (5 more hp) - the xc was already up 6% on the old Dakar. Certainly 58 hp is loads for this kinda travel
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Consider it like the old Dakar, but with 16% more power, the same economy and 14 kgs lighter.

Alternatively its like the xt660z tenere, but 20 kg lighter, 30% more powerful, 15% more economical - but you needto carry 5 litres more fuel to match the range - but thats a minor problem

And onpe thing it has on both those bikes ifs a 18 inch rear wheel
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Not 10 extra hp, 10% more than the xc (5 more hp) - the xc was already up 6% on the old Dakar. Certainly 58 hp is loads for this kinda travel
58 bhp vs 75 bhp..... check your maths chubby cheeks!
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58 bhp vs 75 bhp..... check your maths chubby cheeks!
My maths are immaculate ...

58hp vs 53 for the XC and 50 for the Dakar

There is no BMW single that makes 75 hp.
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My maths are immaculate ...

58hp vs 53 for the XC and 50 for the Dakar

There is no BMW single that makes 75 hp.
...but your grammar isn't - "maths IS immaculate....."

Anyway, I was talking about the F700GS rather than the G650GS as it is now known......
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So, any news on this Husky ? anyone has actually tried it ?

It's great to see a constructor not interested in adding more gadgetry and kg to their bikes - see the new BMW R1200GS and the KTM 1190.

This is the right thing to do, although I see they raised the compression ratio to get those extra hps. It could be an issue with low-octane fuel like you get in Mongolia, no ?

The reduction is weight (as opposed to the F650GS) is good - if it doesn't come to the expense of robustness. The rear subframe must be strong enough to sustain the weight of luggage over a long period of time. Ultimately, the no.1 feature for an adventure bike (for me) is robustness, we'll have to see how it does in that department in a couple years after people have been around Africa (or Asia) and back with it.. in one piece.

OT: Speaking of KTM, when are they coming with a travel-oriented 690 ? that's what we're waiting for.

Laurent

PS: I heard the 2013 euro regulations will force them to detune it to 48 hp, just a rumor ?
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Yep I just dont get some people ... whats the point coming on to someone's thread, and making a couple of random pops at the OPs comments??

Whats even the point of senior people coming on here and giving the benefit of their experience to those who dont know or who want to know - want to know what people with experience think, know, and have learned about bike selection and preparation. At the end of the day there is nothing in it for me. If someone doesnt want to know what I think and recommend, thats fine, leave the thread alone, but why be a smartass about it?

Internet forums can be such a waste of time sometimes ....
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Ere, the new Sertao long termer got off to a bad start with MCN. Check this weeks comic.
Coley, you are not far off the mark with your marketing babble. BUT surely the sum of the parts gives it some cred.
Tbh i am not so sure why the big 1100 and 1150 barges are suitable.
Bit like taking a bus when you only need a car. Who the feck can pick one up fully freighted when its dropped in the dirt.
I had one. Bit like the Emporers new clothes. Lol
Anyway Senior you lay into em lad.
Catch you later. Got to go to the shop for some popcorn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep I just dont get some people ... whats the point coming on to someone's thread, and making a couple of random pops at the OPs comments??
Paranoia there Walt. Anyway, I digress.

BMW is a company about making money. Why would they promote a strategy that did not maximize their profit? They don't make any from the likes of this site's audience.....
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Paranoia there Walt. Anyway, I digress.

BMW is a company about making money. Why would they promote a strategy that did not maximize their profit? They don't make any from the likes of this site's audience.....
I dont criticise BMW at all. Their strategy, as is every other companys, is to maximise return. Just stressing that marketing isnt about anything other than helping to attain that goal. Its nothing to do with defining what the best bike for the job is.

Note taken, but bear in mind when you have just crossed Mongolia in 2.5 days and are in a cheap hotel on the Russian side with a tiny window of smartphone internet and you upload some info that you hope might be of interest to fellow riders back home, who are enjoying the luxury of endless internet and time at the keyboard, its a bit tedious to read that the response of some is complaining about your grammar, and you do tend to think to yourself that you have better things to do at that particular moment than deal with that.
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