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Originally Posted by Pplater
For the past 3 years my wife and I have been going back and forth between the DR650 and the CB500x too. I think we'll go for the 2019 cb500x stock, just add a skid plate, crash bars, maybe taller windscreen and soft luggage. There are many ride reports on ADV forum of DR650s in South America and Africa. We have enjoyed reading them, such as Mick and Tanya's Earth's Ends, and there was another one involving 3 climbers who climbed mountains riding south from USA. Most of these RRs involve a lot of wrenching on a DR.
Jamie Z i think one consideration which I have not seen you mention in the previous 3 pages is - How comfortable are you wrenching on the bike? For a DR, simple changes in elevation in Peru and Chile could require you to make adjustments to the fuel air ratio. Foul a plug from running too rich and you'll need to change spark plugs. The carb engine requires more work than the more trouble free EFI twin cylinder engine. But all these are not an issue if you are comfortable wrenching the DR. The cb500x helps mechanically noob riders like me. But when the sensors on the FI bike goes, I'll probably be stranded.
In preparation for our trip, my wife and I managed to learn the following on our Yamaha FZ6S over a few years from our mechanic friend- Change tyres, front fork seals, sprockets and chain, spark plugs, wheel bearings, all fluids on the bike. But we can't manage all electrical faults and the engine, so I expect the DR will have more "engine can't start" days, or "engine not running well" days than we know what to do. I know we will not be able to exploit the lighter weight of the DR, much as we would appreciate it, because we are not that kind of rider who's good with working on the carb engines, clutch plates, and electrical faults that are inevitable on a 6 continent, 200000km rtw tour we will soon embark on. I know we will regret it when the going gets too tough for the cb500x, but I also know the DR will leave us stranded probably more often, although its easier to fix at random bike shops in developing countries.
We leave for trip in October 2019. We are 10 months out. Buying the 2019 cb500x in USA and heading Ushuaia over 14 months. Maybe we'll see you on the road. Stay in touch?
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Anything that we have built will fail eventually, but you paint the DR650 as an unreliable machine, and I'm not sure what your actually experience with them has been.
Just to clear up a few points about the DR650: it is a tough and reliable bike.
I have traveled extensively on mine (2 bikes, one with 45,000 miles and the other with 70,000 miles.).
There are very few things that will break on the DR, and there are well known fixes for those things: a couple of screws on the Neutral sending switch that need some locktite and a chain roller that should be removed. The pickup coil is a known issue, but the part is small and easily carried. Other than that, the issues that require a mechanic are few and usually self inflicted. People do have wiring issues caused by their own installation of aftermarket electrical stuff. Carb issues are not uncommon.... when the owner has decided to modify the bike by installing a pumper carb instead of using the stock carb. Yes, you will have to mess with a pumper carb, but not the stock CV carb.
No jetting changes needed with the stock CV carburetor from sea level to 14,500 feet- personal experience. I routinely ride hard dirt passes to nearly 14,000 feet here in Colorado, and have ridden a DR to 14,500 feet; I have ridden many miles at sea level. It will start and run fine at high elevation. Yes the bike will down on power, as all bikes, carb or EFI will be. Occasionally the idle speed may need a small adjustment- easily done with one screw while sitting on the bike.
The DR has left me walking only once in all those miles and that was a pickup coil failure. Other than that, it starts and runs faithfully, in hot temperatures (115* F) and cold (5* F). None of the 'can't start engine' days you refer to.
The clutch plates are good for more than 70,000 miles (my experience) if they are not abused.
Choose whichever bike you like, but the DR650 has earned it's reputation for a reason.
...................shu
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