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Is it better to get tubed rims even though fixing a puncture is harder ?
No.

First of all you will now struggle to get a TT marked tyre in anything except an ancient block tread cross-ply. All those bikes with silly 19th century spokes are running TL marked tyres (with tubes) on rims with the safety bead.

How is putting a plug from the outside harder than removing the wheel, breaking the bead to get the tight TL marked tyre off, dragging the tube out and reassembling without trapping the tube?

Plugs last the life of the tyre, you can ignore the lawyers blurb on the packet.

If you do get that ripped out sidewall you have the same issue regardless. You need to get inside and fit a tube until you can buy a new tyre. If you fitted the tyre at home using lube and have good levers it can be done. People only struggle with tyres Honda, Moto Guzzi etc, fitted without lube, using a screw driver and teaspoon combo, having never done it before (and it'll be typically be ****ing down too :-) )

Unless your trip is a series of MX events and you are using competition rubber I'd just stay tubeless.

If you do end up fitting ancient block treads and a tube from some place that's had them in stock since Ted Simon was a lad they'll just drop on (and off, literally). They'll sell you a tube.

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Excellent, thanks for the replies, much appreciated. Makes life much easier.
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... Plugs last the life of the tyre, you can ignore the lawyers blurb on the packet. ...
The mushrooms put on from the inside last the lifespan of the tyre, those put in from outside aren't as reliable (especially if you've caught something that's torn a non-round hole).

I've had a bout a 50/50 success rate, generally the bad ones develop a slow leak and start working their way out over the course of a few hundred kilometers.

My current off-road bike uses tubes on both ends, so this discussion is a bit moot for me, lol
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The mushrooms put on from the inside last the lifespan of the tyre, those put in from outside aren't as reliable (especially if you've caught something that's torn a non-round hole).

I've had a bout a 50/50 success rate, generally the bad ones develop a slow leak and start working their way out over the course of a few hundred kilometers.

My current off-road bike uses tubes on both ends, so this discussion is a bit moot for me, lol

Agreed, the various external repairs MAY last the life of the tire, they MAY NOT, and a lot of it depends on the exact damage, and how well you did the repair, and which TYPE of plug you used. In other words, it's a complicated, and a statement saying "it's all good" is not accurate.
To be clear, ALL the tire manufacturers say that the ONLY truly correct fix is to replace the tire. Of course you may choose to make a repair, and I might too, again depending on the damage and speeds I might ride at. 70 mph is the generally accepted maximum speed for a repair.

The RECOMMENDED repair is a "plug patch" applied from the INSIDE of the tire, and only the main tread area, NOT the sidewall or shoulder.
Be sure you know how to use them.
"Gummy worms" "strings" "Dynaplugs"and my fave the nice "8" plugs from Rema TipTop that used to come with BMW's, while excellent are considered "temporary repairs". They're great to get you back on the road quickly and easily, until you get to somewhere you can take your time, pull the tire and do a proper repair from the inside - or not - YOUR choice!

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