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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted*
BMW are selling a lot of 310s. Not because they're good bikes. They're part of their "Rookie to rider" scheme. Which isn't that bad really.
https://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/en/Of...ietoRider.html
Make no mistake, these 310s are SERIOUSLY POOR QUALITY. Models less than a year old are coming back with issues such as seized calipers, electrical issues (Cheap sensors used everywhere).
These bikes are built in India. Using Indian produced substandard components. Everything on them is cheap zinc plated steel and plastic.
If I had £5000 to spend on a bike. It certainly wouldn't be one of these. You can buy A LOT of good VERY GOOD bikes just a few years old for £5000.
You can buy a BRAND NEW CRF250 Rally for £5000. The only conceivable reason I can imagine that anyone would buy the BMW over one of those is that they have short legs.
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There is plenty of competition out there for this market. Might be of interest to see how the build standard of this weeGS compares with the new RE Himalayan that comes to the market for 1000GBP less.
KTM are in there with a similar size engine in road-going guise and Kawa/Suzi have products with a comparable engine capacity, to name a few.
With the "rookie" scheme, BMW have sort of caught up with Honda here in the UK: their marketing for new riders with restricted licences started some years ago.
Slightly remarkably, there is a second hand CRF250L on offer on UK ebay at present with 59,000 miles on the clock - going strong according to the advert and not using oil.
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Originally Posted by Walkabout
There is plenty of competition out there for this market. Might be of interest to see how the build standard of this weeGS compares with the new RE Himalayan that comes to the market for 1000GBP less.
KTM are in there with a similar size engine in road-going guise and Kawa/Suzi have products with a comparable engine capacity, to name a few.
With the "rookie" scheme, BMW have sort of caught up with Honda here in the UK: their marketing for new riders with restricted licences started some years ago.
Slightly remarkably, there is a second hand CRF250L on offer on UK ebay at present with 59,000 miles on the clock - going strong according to the advert and not using oil.
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Absolutely. They're dam good bikes. You can buy a nice example for £3000 !!
I'll be buying one soon.
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