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Hi Rami,
Where did u cross the Chinese boarder. Are you allowed to ride in China as a individual traveller?
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25 May 2013
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Hi Rami,
Where did u cross the Chinese boarder. Are you allowed to ride in China as a individual traveller?
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We crossed Khunjerab Pass, the only border post between Pakistan and China, and then Torugat Pass to Kyrgyztan.
It´s not possible for foreigners to drive their own vehicles without an escort in China.
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Not such good news from the KKH Gilgit area:
BBC News - Nine tourists killed at north Pakistan mountain camp
... the Pakistani Taliban has told the BBC it was responsible... The group said it would continue to target foreigners.
The first such attack up in usually peaceful and safe NE Pakistan, afaik. And its not like there can be that many tourists up there.
I wonder if the police escorts down on the lowlands might now spread up to the KKH too.
More here also: http://pamirtimes.net + latest on the lake.
And to add your PoV on the background to the event, please go here.
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Escorts on the KKH
We're currently riding our motorcycles down the KKH and were near Aliabad when the attack happened. We've been escorted on and off by the police between Aliabad, Gilgit and Besham so far, and probably all the way to Mansehra. We even get an escort to go the shop the last few days!
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26 Jun 2013
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A 30 member and another 45 member groups of MAPPERS are in the area. One group was in Chillas when this tragedy happened. No one came back.
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28 Jun 2013
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Hey there,
Specially Omie, as I remembered you gave us great informations in 2012 about Hunza lake... we are soon on the way to the KKH again. Will reach Pakistan in the end of July from Iran and exit through China.
What is your opinion about the influences of traveling by car... any latest news of government reactions of the killings. Any idea whether we can pass up north or will the police not allow us?
Thanks for any informations... still can't wait to be back in my favorite travel country.
See yaaa
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Advice KKH
Hello,
I am just about to cross the border from India to Pakistan. The plan was to travel the KKH-Region and some sidevalleys in the first half of July. After the attack I have to question my plans.
Will the officials still allow individual traveling in the area, it is blocked or just possible unter armed escorts?
And if it is possible will I feel save at all?
Are there still save regions I can go north of Islamabad or should I take the direct way to Iran?
Any suggetions? Anybody in the same situation?
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Hi Beemer,
yes we are in almost the same situation, we wanted to cross from Iran to Pakistan and the head north to the KKH. We decided not to go and are now working on another plan. Unfortunatly we dont have all the visa to do the Pamir and the way back home, but maybe we can arrange it in Teheran where we went back to now. Its a shame, the KKH should be one of the highlights of our trip.
Anyone else in Iran with the same problem?
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Hey there,
Specially Omie, as I remembered you gave us great informations in 2012 about Hunza lake... we are soon on the way to the KKH again. Will reach Pakistan in the end of July from Iran and exit through China.
What is your opinion about the influences of traveling by car... any latest news of government reactions of the killings. Any idea whether we can pass up north or will the police not allow us?
Thanks for any informations... still can't wait to be back in my favorite travel country.
See yaaa
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Hey Roman,
Just met the big group returning from Khanjerab, Shimshal and Minapin etc. They were in Chillas when the tragedy happened.
They noticed nothing strange or different but then, all of them were Pakistanis on motorcycles. Foreigners were escorted by police.
Situation in Pakistan is a bit fluid and can change. As of today every road is open life goes on normally (apparently). Atabad lake has now shrunk to 8kms and opens in Gulmit because the spillway has been made deeper. Cars and jeeps are being routinely transported across the lake.
I will be going to different valleys along the KKH in mid August after Eid either on my XT200 or VX 800. It would include substantial trekking, as much as this 54 years old frame can take.
Once in Pakistan give me a call on 0321-4450343. Would be nice to have a chat over a cup of tea.
Cheers
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Hello,
Right now I am travelling with my motorbike on the Karakorum Highway.
I have started Islamabad and gone all the way to the chineese border and back to Gilgit now.
There are no special restrictions for travelling on the KKH. From Batgran to Chilas there were several police-escorts, but not all the way and not verry serious. So not a big hassle.
After Chilas I had no escorts, only the usual checkpoints with verry friendly policemen. Free choice for hotels and no police protection when walking around. No Permits were requierd.
Things seems to be very "normal", just a lack of other tourists.
Greetings Heiko
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