Carnet

[fearless Dave]

As a New Zealander passport holder do I need
a Carnet, for Europe
for me there seems to be some confusion on whether I do and the total cost.

Basicly I will be shipping my Motorcycle to europe and then back to NZ for 6 months to a year.

Possible starting in south Korea, Russia, Mongolia and all of Europe ,
or starting in the Uk and just doing a loop.
so what I need to know is

1/ Do I need one?
2/ what would the cost be for the Carnet?

Cheers.

[Warin]

Some basics;

A person does not need a carnet, they may need a visa.

A vehicle may need a carnet.

------------------------- The FAQ .. Frequently Asked Questions ...

There is a lot of information in those top blue bars (as in mountains of information) ... the one you want is 'GET READY' .. for the carnet the section 'Carnet De Passage Explained' .. that then gets you
Paperwork | Horizons Unlimited

and there you get a link to
Carnet de Passages en Douanes - List of countries where it is Required | Horizons Unlimited

And that says you need a carnet for Japan... if your going to South Korea ..the bike will go through Japan... others have found this difficult .. see trip reports. Depends on how you are shipping the bike .. sea will land in Japan and may cause problems. Air will also land in Japan .. but less likely to cause problems.

------------------------when you have more ideas .. ask again.
If you start and finish in Europe you might buy a bike there and then sell it - saves shipping charges.

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Your question has too many variables to give you a definite answer. Do more reading of the blue bar thingys .. and some trip reports of people who have done similar things .. Then ask again.

You are in the right place for what you want to do... read through stuff ... when confused or you don't find what your looking for .. ask ... someone will have done it or have an idea about it.

[fearless Dave]

Sorry I meant just for the bike.

[pecha72]

Originally Posted by fearless Dave

1/ Do I need one?

For Europe, no. And you also do not need it in large parts of Central & East Asia, IF you stay on the north side of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India & Nepal. The exception to this would be Japan.

Originally Posted by fearless Dave

2/ what would the cost be for the Carnet?

About this, you will need to ask from the Automobile Association of your home country. There will be the cost related to the issue of carnet (non refundable), and most likely a bond, and the size of the bond will depend on many things, including which countries you will need the carnet for, and what is the value of your vehicle. You should get the bond back after the trip, provided your vehicle has not been left in any of the carnet countries, and you have taken care, that the vehicle has been stamped in and out of all such countries.

Note, that there is a plan to change this whole system so, that there would be only one world-wide issuer of the carnets. I don´t think there has been any official word on this yet, but the plan has been to change this in 2015, I kind of doubt it would happen so soon, but who knows. It would be a major change, and hopefully for the better, as the current model too much depends of the arbitrariness of the AA, that you need to deal with. (They can demand just about anything they like for the bond, for example).

[Tony and Cathy K]

... and there you get a link to
Carnet de Passages en Douanes - List of countries where it is Required | Horizons Unlimited

I was just checking the list of African countries that require a carnet and I'm convinced that this list is way outdated. I travelled from South Africa via Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi, Zambia and Namibia on my bike in April 2014 and did not require any paperwork other than my passport and bike's registration documents (registered in my name). The Zim police asked for a police clearance document at one point but allowed us to continue without it.

[Warin]

Originally Posted by Tony and Cathy K

I was just checking the list of African countries that require a carnet and I'm convinced that this list is way outdated. I travelled from South Africa via Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi, Zambia and Namibia on my bike in April 2014 and did not require any paperwork other than my passport and bike's registration documents (registered in my name). The Zim police asked for a police clearance document at one point but allowed us to continue without it.

Think you'll find there is some sort of agreement between those countries. If you have a bike from UK, Australia, America, etc .. then you would need a carnet.