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Not really. But i find self-righteous coombajah stuff really boring and impractical for what is a thread asking about something outside the main box.
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Not really. But i find self-righteous coombajah stuff really boring and impractical for what is a thread asking about something outside the main box.
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This certainly is a campfire of sorts we are all sitting around and singing our own tunes.... and if you are looking for outside the box alternatives, please re-read my last post. You see, it is not all "stuff" that is important, matter of fact as I see it...the emphasis on "stuff" is the problem. While you display an interesting insight, and your words do ring true for you , I am sure. I maintain that the anger is counter productive in or out of the box. And. the less "stuff" the better.
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An After thought: For tmotten. it is the escape from the "Cargo Culture" that is the first step, in or out of the box. Can we agree on this? And, "Cargo Culture" not only consists of "stuff" but emotions. You wear anger around and it weighs more and restricts more than your debt and financial obligations. Is that out of the box enough for you?
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This certainly is a campfire of sorts we are all sitting around and singing our own tunes.... and if you are looking for outside the box alternatives, please re-read my last post. You see, it is not all "stuff" that is important, matter of fact as I see it...the emphasis on "stuff" is the problem. While you display an interesting insight, and your words do ring true for you , I am sure. I maintain that the anger is counter productive in or out of the box. And. the less "stuff" the better.
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An After thought: For tmotten. it is the escape from the "Cargo Culture" that is the first step, in or out of the box. Can we agree on this? And, "Cargo Culture" not only consists of "stuff" but emotions. You wear anger around and it weighs more and restricts more than your debt and financial obligations. Is that out of the box enough for you?
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This thread turned from instructive to motivational. Most people are already motivated. They just need to be made to see a way.
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Subscribing to this thread to get all points of view based on your experience.
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Why were you expecting questions or comments?
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You lost me with the philosophical stuff mate. Don't rely engage in that. Always giggled at the conversations that I overheard about collective conscious by guys with blond dreads wearing Thai fisherman pants and that on all my travels too. I'm a bit more practical in my approach to things.
Though your practical financial post was good. Didn't need a comment I though.
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make end meets
One needs to know what he wants most in life. For me travelling on motorcycle was a dream since I was a little boy. I found a job I could work 15 hours a day that no one would do when I was 16 years old. I worked one full year to buy the first motorcycle, then left work the following day I got my driver's license. After that I worked 2 to 3 months then go on a trip 3 to 4 months and I returned to do the work no one would do for another 2 to 3 months. I repeated that for 10 years.
I put a hold to this lifestyle to raise the family. Now that the kids are grownup, I retired 2 years ago and I'm back to travel full time this time.
I sold the house, got rid of everything and bought 2 new 300 cc motorcycle, one for Canada, one for Latin America.
I ride in Canada during the summer, and the rest of the year i ride the back country of south america on a chineese dual sport.
I I don't pay rent, I camp yearound for which I rarely pay for. I live the life I have always dream to live.
When my kids can visit me, I rent a small studio on the beach. I cannot be happier.
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One needs to know what he wants most in life. For me travelling on motorcycle was a dream since I was a little boy. I found a job I could work 15 hours a day that no one would do when I was 16 years old. I worked one full year to buy the first motorcycle, then left work the following day I got my driver's license. After that I worked 2 to 3 months then go on a trip 3 to 4 months and I returned to do the work no one would do for another 2 to 3 months. I repeated that for 10 years.
I put a hold to this lifestyle to raise the family. Now that the kids are grownup, I retired 2 years ago and I'm back to travel full time this time.
I sold the house, got rid of everything and bought 2 new 300 cc motorcycle, one for Canada, one for Latin America.
I ride in Canada during the summer, and the rest of the year i ride the back country of south america on a chineese dual sport.
I I don't pay rent, I camp yearound for which I rarely pay for. I live the life I have always dream to live.
When my kids can visit me, I rent a small studio on the beach. I cannot be happier.
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That's a pretty good blue print for would be travelers to follow! 
Curious what the work was that "no one else would do"?
Here in California we have 2 to 3 million Mexicanos doing the work "no one would do". Most don't end up having money left over for travel!
Sounds like your on a roll exploring S. America. I hope you taking good notes to share with us here!
Please do a ride report for us and do talk about how the Chinese Moto is working out. Lots of riders looking at that option. (including me!)
How's your Spanish? I spent 7 years down there and mine is still terrible.
Good luck! Please chime in once in a while!
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In those years I was working on underground works, and most specially water and sewer fixing up **** ups in sewer manhole. I had to break the cement in bottom of the manhole with a jack hammer, and redo the cement job. Very dusty, horibly loud, and very hard physically. It is impossible to do this kind yearound, but doing that 12 to 15 hours a day 8 to 10 weeks twice a year provided me enough money and time to ride 2 long trips a year.
Most mexicans do the jobs most people wont do, but these are not good paying job. But most people working in water and sewer work 12 hours a day and the pay is good.
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work in a mine in Canada or Australia and wait for it to close or work summer in wild fire management or fire fighting than you are guarantied a warm winter if you choose the tropics 6 and 6
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Just my 2c.
Owning a house/unit outright does two things. It secures you in retirement AND provides an income when you travel.
Buy a place and work your butt off to pay it off. 7-10 years is achievable if you focus.
Rent it out to support your travel.
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I keep working. The internet is a wonderful thing. My clients are on the other side of the world and as long as I keep my work up to date, nobody cares that I travel.
I sold up everything back home so now the only rent I have to pay is for where I'm currently staying. I don't run out of money because I still earn a salary every month.
The downside is my travels are limited to places with decent internet, so I can't just disappear for months on end. Still, it's a huge improvement over staying home.
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Youtube Videos ?
Some travelers spend a lot of time on their YouTube channels.
I have seen complicated formulas about what you can earn on a YouTube channel.
Depends on, viewers, subscribers, clicks on specific links on.....
But i we skip the math. And ask for the reality.
How much income does a good, but not the most popular YouTube channel gives as income ? Without getting paid direct by companies for doing commercials about their products.
Anyone have some real examples ? (Depends on a lot of things is not an answer. I know that)
Without giving any names
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The key is not your salary, but to to avoid to pay bills while you work
We retired early retirement and live in an RV on resort we work for from April to October. No rent, hydro, tax, cable, internet, storage and transportation to go to the job site.. The key is to avoid to pay bills while you work.
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Everyone think we are miserable because my wife was too young to get a pension, and I left work 8 years short to have full pension which is 70% of my salary.
During those 6 months our expenses are groceries, chlothing, motorcycles expenses (insurance and gas) eat at restaurants a few times a week. We save 80% what we earn and my pension from work adds up to that.
We never live so well. We have lived the remaining 6 months in Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Philipines, thailand and the rent cost about $300 a month.
We have ample money to travel rent or by a motorcycle depending of the country without touching my pension from work.
The last year we worked we had a mortage of 18,000 a year, + taxes, heating, cable, internet, car payment to round up to around $4000 a month. We struggled to keep our head above the water.
We should have left work long before we did.
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Some travelers spend a lot of time on their YouTube channels.
I have seen complicated formulas about what you can earn on a YouTube channel.
Depends on, viewers, subscribers, clicks on specific links on.....
But i we skip the math. And ask for the reality.
How much income does a good, but not the most popular YouTube channel gives as income ? Without getting paid direct by companies for doing commercials about their products.
Anyone have some real examples ? (Depends on a lot of things is not an answer. I know that)
Without giving any names
Thanks
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Thats a very good question. I actually wonder exactly the same....
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