I'm on a trip from europ to souh afrika. Started in mid november with bike clothes and inlets
and long underware. Since senegal only jeans and tshirt because its too hot. Now in ghana and sending finaly some stuff home. For sure the inlets, thought about keeping the jacket because when there was rain it can be cold when you drive 80kmph.
What about the trousers?? How is the weather in southafrika in october, november? Too hot for heavy bike trousers or makes it sense to keep them?
Greets saidschin

IMO, Denim Jeans are quite hot and sweaty in hot weather. Denim is thick, no air flow and once WET, they stay wet for a long time. (Monkey Butt!)

Not sure what "Inlets" are. I'd have sent the long underwear home in Morocco!

For HOT weather try Off road Mesh riding pants (like Moto Cross pants). Bring rain pants too, for cold/rain. Easy to wash, tough, and dry very quickly after washing. (an hour in Sun) Jeans are good for walking around, not so much for riding. YMMV.

T-Shirt? Best to keep the Sweat on the inside. With a T-shirt you may get dehydrated quickly. Not good! Cover up in heat .. some venting is good but don't ride naked. (also wind and Sun burn can get you, not to mention rocks, birds et al)

A lot depends on your tolerance to crash injury. I wear knee/shin guards and decent boots ... even in heat, and sometimes armored riding shorts under my Moto Cross pants. Works really well.

Some sort of back protector and elbow protection might be a good idea too?
All up to you.

I believe Oct./November are beginning of Summer in S. Africa? So MORE heat I guess (at least in inland areas)? Coast is probably cool. Dunno?

Ride safe! Rubber Side Down!

I ride daily in just work trousers. Off road or on trips I always wear bike trousers. Good quality textile kit is never hot. I even wear it mid summer and am fine and don't sweat. Leathers you will die. There is also the option of off road hard body armour and an MX shirt. But I go with European made textiles.

Where in SA? It is a big country. Oct-Nov isn't so hot. It varies where you are but most likely high 20s low 30s. Lowveld is hotter. It is spring. But expect afternoon thunderstorms. Cape Town is opposite. dry season there.

Jeans wont help much on or off road, and if it rains they will stay wet. They are also hotter and more uncomfortable than bike pants. In my opinion jeans are one of the worst pieces of clothing ever invented and are more a fashion statement than a useful piece of clothing. About as useful as harley costumes. The only set of jeans I own is a set of Kevlar lined thick bike jeans made by X-Kulcha


XKulcha : Extreme Lifestyle Apparel

I wear them only for road riding. Off road they would soak up dust, be heavy, and if they get wet Im wet all day. And no ventilation like good textiles. Your normal over priced brand name levi or whatever is no protection at all.

Mine are a mix between leather and textile, with knee protection and hip protection in it. Same with the jacket, back-, elbow- and shoulderprotection in it. Brand is pharao, not bad clothes but was too hot in westafrika. In mali and burkina 38°C and a lot more in the sun and if you dont drive tarmac roads, juste some side roads - pistes you're not that fast, no wind to cool down. Actually even the wind was hot.
So in my case the jeans were less hot then the trousers thats the only reason why i wear them.
Gonna be all over the country i think. Sure cape town, jo burg, more north east and i will come from namibia so...

"Inlets" or maybe "Inlays"? Like a extra layer you can put in bike clothes in winter.
Hm no way you gonna cross mali and burkina in may with a jacket, at least for me it was too hot. I never had problems with dehydration and sunburn, maybe because im half african or yiu juste get used to it after a few months....
I also dont have money to buy new bike clothes. But im gonna keep my trouser due the weather is not that hot anymore....
And yes befor i had no protection, everthing was in the bike clothes. So yes falling or crashing not allowd. But also kept me driving more savely, most of time....

Gets to 40s in the Karoo. My textiles fine. I wear jacket trousers and off road boots. I never get too hot. It could be that I am more used to the heat, I don't know. Heat doesn't bother me. In a Tshirt I would burn in an hour. I just burn now if there is a gap between my gloves and jacket, or my face where not covered by a helmet. Anywhere white skin is exposed it quickly goes to red and its sore! European and American below zero temperatures and snow and ice, No thanks. You can keep it

There is a reason why people in hot regions cover up. For one it reduces dehydration.

I think your kit being partly leather was the problem. I don't know the brand. Leather is very hot.

Ok. Yeah i think the problem is that my bike clothes are not really made for the heat. All in all a bit to heavy and to thick material. And i didnt touhgt about it when i started - rookie mistake i guess...

Worst comes to worst you could order some the x-kultcha stuff and ask to have it sent to Namibia. It is quite good value. Check out the enduro, Dakar, and biker X lines. Will be just over $100 or about. Ballistic nylon and Kevlar are far better than normal jeans. The more common international brands will cost 2-3 times that. The reason it is cheap is not the quality, but because it is locally made. The abrasion resistance will far exceed that of your skin!

The cheaper ranges of textiles here, like Assault, I find hot.

If your budget is tight you wont want to buy new kit as you say. But one fall in jeans and tshirt can not only ruin your day, but your entire trip. No one ever plans to crash. But falls happen.


Im very happy with my set. Very good workmanship and very comfortable.

That's a really important fact! Many riders don't get this. Best to keep the sweat on the INSIDE. It's counterintuitive but it really works in very high heat. With just a bit of air flow, your sweat will help cool you as you ride ... even in 40C temps. Keep covered!

Also, even though you are sweating ... you are not losing as much water as you would riding in a T-Shirt. Also, good points about burning. Not just white people burn. Sun & Wind Burn will EXHAUST the rider. We see this all the time with the Harley crowd here. When it's hot they strip down to a bandana and tank tops, Beanie Nazi helmets. After two or three hours they end up in the emergency room with heat stroke.

I use a Camel Back drink system and in heat, drink constantly. a small sip every 3 minutes will keep you hydrated and safe. Try to keep moving and if you stop ... find shade.

Leather can be hot but remember ... leather is the "original" breathable material!

I've ridden with my leather pants through Mexico and Cent. America. I can ride up to about 85F to 90F without problem. Off the bike is when it gets hot. But non vented Cordura or other synthetic pants (Cold weather/Winter type) I sweat TWICE as much as Leather. I carry both ... and switch from Leather to Moto pants at around 85F to 90F. Nothing like Leather for protection.

All my Moto off road pants flow a lot of air ... so very comfortable in high heat not good if it cools off. I put Rain pants over when cold. Amazing.

Virtually ALL off road riding gear today is made in either China, Korea, Vietnam or Pakistan. Even Klim is made in China. With Chinese goods you can get Crap at closeout prices .. or pay more and get really well made gear.
You get what you pay for ... If BMW are making Cars and bikes there ... you know the quality is there ... if you're willing to pay.

In the old days lots of dirt bike gear was made in Finland. Like Sinsalo and many other top brands. No more. Those days are gone ... sadly.

My BMW stuff the tag says made in Serbia. My Macna says made in Czech republic. My gaerne SG10s and my Forma boots, made in Italy. Quality stuff and it lasts many years and breathes. My X Kultcha is locally made.

Gloves I can only find made in china, even BMW branded GS gloves. And cant get a set that will last even a year. The older BMW gloves I think were made in Thailand and lasted longer. The GSIII were Chinese made and tear and come apart.

Quality DS gloves for me is a problem. Unless I go for leather road gloves. The usual problems are the stitching parts, the non leather fibre gets holes, or the leather tears where it is thin. The absolute worse Chinese rubbish was alpine star. didn't even last 4 months. They cost the same as BMW. And I don't wear stuff every day as I have 3 sets of everything so alternate. I don't look at brand anymore but where it is made. I cant find any glove without that dreaded 'cheap kak quality chinese' label.

I will never buy alpine star gloves again. The Five gloves are a but better but also don't last. The BMW gloves are probably still the best around in terms of value but quality has gone down. I don't know what to buy anymore.


I wonder if companies manufacture in different countries for different markets. Perhaps the US market is more made in china dominated. You have in effect outsourced most of your manufacturing and jobs there and I think they hold most of your dollars in circulation lol. Thank you Walmart lol!. We still have options on most things. Like I bought cutlery and crockery for the home and you can find made in spain, france, UK etc. Bike kit and boots easy. Just gloves cant. The only way to stop it really is if the majority of people refuse to buy it.

Cooling Vests?

Sorry about hooking onto the trousers link but cool bits is important
Does anyone have any experience with Cooling Vests. Do they work? Would be a godsend in Australia at this time of year. Please see attached link for example. Any help appreciated.

https://www.adventuremoto.com.au/mac...-dry-evo~54756


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That $245 will get you a LOT of wet T-shirts.

Never ride without bike pants and jacket and have no problem with hot weather. Look at the locals, they never uncover body in heat, just the opposite.

I've ridden round town in shirtsleeves, even helmetless. But I would never ride without a reasonable degree of protection on a long journey, however hot it got. Just not worth it. Gravel rash in central Asia or Africa? No thanks...