Many valid points made about the pros and cons of 'organized group' travel.

I, too, was on this trip and now looking back with somewhat rose-tinted spectacles, it was undoubtedly a fantastic 'experience'!

Prior to signing up for the trip I spoke to Jeff at the NEC show and he said there that the group would be no more than 12 people and that if there were more than 12 people interested, he would probably split the trip into two groups. As it was there were 18 participants, supported by two large trucks (too big, too slow - and one with trailer!), a medic/driver, a mechanic/driver, expedition leader on bike and Jeff (Kudu owner).

I am glad to hear that Jeff now acknowledges a few of the problems encountered on the trip. We all knew that it was supposed to be 'an adventure' - and could all accept situations that occur that are beyond anyone's control - discontent only occurred over situations that were well within the organisers control and his apparent failure to acknowledge these and his inability to enter into any kind of dialogue until it was almost at mutiny point. .

If you want a better idea of what the trip was like from my perspective, have a look at my blog - Mikes Mongolian Madness | The wanderings and wonderings of a motorcycle traveller

Bottom line - it was a fantastic trip (fantastic memories and fantastic people) - but I wouldn't do an 'organised adventure trip' again - go on your own or with a few selected companions.