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Originally Posted by tremens
there is no climate change, what we observe is climate shift. Normal thing, happened many times in history of Earth. Nothing to worry about.
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Pure ignorance. You're living in a fool's paradise. Look at the science, do some reading ... and check out the history. Nothing to worry about?

What? Me Worry?
We knew this was coming back in 1977 when I landed in a Twin Otter on a Tabular ice berg the size of New Hampshire. (1/3 size of UK?) Also the year they discovered a hole in the Ozone among other things we did that year.
I supported Glaciologists (and many other scientists from many disciplines) in Antarctic from '76 to '79. They knew little back then ... but have learned a whole lot more since. The rapid changes that are now well documented are unprecedented ... and show things that normally would take thousands (or ten's of thousands) of years to occur are happening all the time.
And that's a fact.
I remember interviewing a 89 year old Fisherman in Peru' in 1975.
This back when the first "El Nino" was happening. This old guy said he'd never seen anything like it ... and nothing similar had happened during his or his Fathers' lifetime (Father lived into his 80's).
More recently in Peru', they've had massive Fish die offs no one can explain. Tens of millions of dead Fish. Explain please.
So nearly 200 years (a spec in geologic time) of personal experience from some modest fisherfolk of Peru'. What does it mean?
These guys spend their life at sea in small boats. The changes the old man saw he could not believe nor explain. He could only cry.
At the time I had no idea what climate change or global warming was, but we sure as Hell could see something was up and knew this old guy was not making any of this up.
Since then much has been uncovered, studied and proven. 90% of serious, credentialed scientists believe Climate Change is real ... and have PROOF. What's your proof? The Bible?
Are ALL these scientists being "paid off"? Are they Commie Rats? And why are the oil companies trying so hard (and spending millions) to shut them up!

(but can't!)
It's real folks. Get used to it. This is not some Hippy conspiracy. But back to the question ... how will you get on your bike and ride once the world begins to fall into chaos? Govts. collapse, infrastructure fails and there is no one around to
"Fix things"?