I thought I had heard it all, but 'inverted snobbery' was good for a few chuckles. I have owned 3 gsa's and am perfectly fine with the stereotype because it is true a lot of the time. There will always be exceptions. There are plenty of good people who ride R1200's. They are the type of people who would never think about terms like 'class envy' or 'inverted snobbery.'

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At the Hubb Pub, more often than not, the topic does not seem to matter as much as the chronic emotional state of those who post. We have the enthusiastic and the serene, we have the bored and we have the antagonistic. We have those in grief over some emotional or physical loss and we have the apathetic, who once and a while get it together enough to scribble a few lines.

As I roam the various posts of certain individuals - no matter if the topic is BMWs, border crossings or routes, some hubbers exhibit the same emotion over and over and over again. The antagonistic ones keep antagonizing, the bored ones, when able to post emit boredom, and hostile ones continue their hostility.

How about this for an idea, each one reviews a random sample of his/her posts and determines if there is a chronic or prevailing emotion being exhibited more often than not, and in the very next post try to respond without that emotion. Try to leave your chronic state behind and deal with the issue as honestly as possible.

Just an idea.

xfiltrate

Why do preachers always have the craziest children? Diversity is what makes life great in my opinion. The world is full of different characters. If it was not, it would probably be a pretty boring place. Take a guy who moves down to Argentina because he seeks a life with less corruption and dishonesty.

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How does one accurately evaluate and analyze their own writing objectively?
Maybe you could do it for us? What's your hourly rate Doc?

"respond without that emotion"? News Flash! This is a moto travel discussion forum where all sorts of opinions and EMOTIONS are presented ... and I thought welcomed (maybe I'm wrong on that? ) ... it's these elements that makes things interesting. (some emotion ... not over the top)

Without some emotion and strong opinions there would be no interest raised thus no participation. DEAD.

HUBB is already dying a slow death, one reason is because so many things are Banned from discussion ... as if riders won't encounter extremely controversial political situations crossing through regions engulfed in civil war (Oh, but don't bring it up here ... never mention history!) ... or have seen UNSPEAKABLE things in person (Oh, but don't mention it here ... might OFFEND someone!)
... are you suggesting even further emasculation of the forum? I did hear they were looking for a new moderator... applying for the job?

Well presented, reasonable opinion does not mean attacking others, using cheap-shot innuendo or rumor mongering hyperbole. Emotion is good if well expressed (within reason). Makes for good reading and discussion. Who knows, we might learn something. Isn't that why you're here? ... and PS ... don't forget HUMOR! God knows we need more of it!

If someone goes on too much of a rant ... most readers TUNE OUT. Start banning every little rant or opinion and what've ya got? I say let it all play out.

"Chronic state"? What are you trying to say here Doctor?

Another wake up call: honesty only goes so far on an on line forum.
How deep you wanna go here?

This thread is about bad behavior on the road. We've all seen it, been guilty of it or know about it ... or bailed Aussies out of jail because of it!
(and that last bit is the honest truth!)

Theres no excuse for things like stealing towels, but I can say that some places on this Earth are just not set up to play by the rules . . . as in impossible to play by the rules . . . you wouldn't even be able to do it if you wanted to and tried to.

OK ok I try to be clear ( not easy and surely my english is not good enough ) .

point 1( Gr ) no harm against any kind of people . If this forum is very anglo saxon it is because a lot af travellers are . no other reason . Ant there are differences of culture with UEns , south americans, chinese, indians for what i know . some have understood

Point 2 (xfitrate ) (here is 2 in the morning and so I was sleeping before ! just a coincidence i am up now )
Nice vids'
But i dont want to be too much affirmative about people of a type that are much more in this "case" than others kinds .
I am positive for paragliidng in Spain or touring in Australia for what I have seen not for the rest , precisions in PM if you want .

Any forum need good conttradictors and i like this one . For the moment .
from the book " tourists and travellers" :
" One is always the tourist of an other who feels a "traveller"
Eof in general

ex-xt,

Merci, you have clarified your position to me and without empirical evidence at hand I agree with you. Here, I have dealt in generalities - and perhaps it takes a Frenchman like you to keep it real. Thank you for your observations and your kind words about our Overland Fitness videos.

Eat, Drink and listen to the French, they are the true diplomats of a cruel world

xfiltrate

In short some people are wanxxrs, colour, creed or nationality makes no difference, I am of the opinion that thirty years of dealing with such people on a daily basis gives me the right tor make such a sweeping statement people that have worked in public service may well agree with the above eg Spanishbiker
Fortunately now I am retired I get to tell them to fxxx off, which I can do in a number of languages, whose says travel doesn't broaden the mind

^^^^ Nice one Chris.

this thread has indeed gone on for a while (nothing wrong in that)

But, I see it as, this (the original question - shitty behaviour)

Whenever I'm anywhere else (from home) be it in Spain, Italy, outside of Swindon.... I treat people how I'd like to be treated myself, which is, generally quite nice.

If I see someone acting like a cock, I'll usually just ignore them, and have nothing to do with them (unless I have to, but I don't usually live in those kind of circles)

'nuff said really. Ride/drive on!

only 26 years here, but agree with you whole heartedly!!
I have tried to find an excuse for some people, but I'm afraid the notion that everyone has something valuable to offer is just wrong, some people are just a waste of good oxygen!!

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That really sums it up, been there.

It usually starts with a variation of "do you know who I am.........." it's down hill from there.

As someone once said to me "if you saw some bird sh#t on a hand rail what would you think of it" hadn't a clue what he was on about but the answer is of course "nothing apart from avoid it". That's what these people are bird sh#t on a hand rail

After 34 years in the Travel Industry, including 10 years 'repping' in Spain for both youth market and mainstream Tour Operators I couldn't agree with you more.