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Linsk to your own Youtube channel should not be allowed.
Since that is commercial advertisment: Forbidden.
Evenif it is travel story.
HU should not be used to get more viewer/subscribers/money.
Youtube channels are money makers.
But....
of course if someone else has published an instruction video that answers a specific queastion. That is OK.
a) It is not you own channel => you do not earn on it
b) It answers a question and is not used for general advertisment
That is my personal opionon.
Others have differnet views. And that is OK for me.
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Originally Posted by Erik_G
Linsk to your own Youtube channel should not be allowed.
Since that is commercial advertisment: Forbidden.
Evenif it is travel story.
HU should not be used to get more viewer/subscribers/money.
Youtube channels are money makers.
But....
of course if someone else has published an instruction video that answers a specific queastion. That is OK.
a) It is not you own channel => you do not earn on it
b) It answers a question and is not used for general advertisment
That is my personal opionon.
Others have differnet views. And that is OK for me.
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I think you are far away from reality if you state YT channels are generally money makers.
Google tells me that are 38 millions YT chanels existing and that every minute these users upload 500hrs of content. 230.000 channels have more than 100k subscribers. 22.000 channels got more than 1 million subscribers. 700 of them have over 10 Mio subscribers.
You need a minimum of 1000 subscribers and you must have reached a minimum of 4000 watched hours in the past 12 months before you can start monetizing your channel. If you reached this than the CTR(Clickthrough rate) ist coming to the game: You get a 100 views on a video and 5 user click an ad. Gives you a CTR of 5% which is the value that is monetizing. A video like this would you make earn some less cents.
So to state a YT chanel is a money maker will be for the majority of YTs still a dream that never drives into the reality of money making. Growing the amount of monthly subscribers and views through valuable content is hard work and it takes normally years to get some money back. Not everybody in the scene of motorcycle videos is a Noraly from Itchey Boots who was able to create an explosive channel wonder. And btw she has a lot of subscribers from regions with a with a very low CPM. Which means simply explained that indian viewers don`t create as much ad value as european users do and which reduces clearly her income measured only by the numbers of viewers compared to channels with western viewers. (a reason why she offers subtitles in many languages)
I totally agree if someone registers a The Hubb and tries to use the forum only to start selfpromoting his channel - that this should be stricltly forbidden.
But if there is a member who contributed to the social community here and who now starts a travel vlog why should he/she not to be permitted to give this information to the community?
In todays times YT is what the books in the 18th century were and nobody would state generally that books should be forbidden because the writer could makes eventually money on it.
I think that the contributing community here as well as the owner with his forum rules and moderating actions are doing a realy great job which donesn`t need any strictly ban to YT channels of members.
If I look to the stats I get the info that HU website has an average of 3155 unique users with 9466 pageviews a day. And because you can read the forum without any registrations an easy way to stop abusing this plattform as a multiplier for your YT channel or ad/afiliate websites will be to generate a script that blinds out out all links in comments for not logged in users. But be aware this will also have an negative effect to the stats and ad income of HU website and it would possibly damage the over years build up image and value of this openhearted and helpfull community.
So I think the rules of HU are still fine and all members create a valuable community which does not need more strictly bans than existing today. We are all guests here and as a guests and people who travel the world we are used to follow the rules given by the host or don`t we?
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Think some of you are making a mountain out of a mole hill !!
It is a great site !
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I think some have missed the point, sharing useful info is often a great help, but a user who just posts linking his blog to earn revenue rather than provide useful info isn't in the spirit of the hubb imho.
The updates I've been providing on the COVID situation are posted on 2 other sites that I run, now I could just post a link to one or both of those sites, but thats against the rules so I post the info here as a new comment in the appropriate forum. I gain nothing from posting here or elsewhere except the knowledge that people may find the information helpful.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik_G
Linsk to your own Youtube channel should not be allowed.
Since that is commercial advertisment: Forbidden.
Evenif it is travel story.
HU should not be used to get more viewer/subscribers/money.
Youtube channels are money makers.
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I very much disagree with that.
I put links to my TouTube channel on the HUB, not to make money (with the few views I get I don't make money anyway) but to share the experience of the things I love to do (motorcycle rides) with others.
Youtube channels only are moneymakers if you have thousands of viewers and even if they are moneymakers for some peoeple, if the video's are interestings, why not share them on the HUB ? You don't have to watch them and you don't have to pay for it so why would you care.
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I very much disagree with that.
I put links to my TouTube channel on the HUB, not to make money (with the few views I get I don't make money anyway) but to share the experience of the things I love to do (motorcycle rides) with others.
Youtube channels only are moneymakers if you have thousands of viewers and even if they are moneymakers for some peoeple, if the video's are interestings, why not share them on the HUB ? You don't have to watch them and you don't have to pay for it so why would you care.
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My take is that you are not and have not used the Hubb to promote your channels.
For me that's absolutely fine and I have zero issues with you attaching links in your signature.
Some, however, constantly promote their channels. Either for a monetary reason (quite rightly against the rules). Or through some sort if hubris/self gratification (just plain boring and tedious
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just plain boring and tedious
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If you don't like it, don't watch it. There is enough other content on the HUB.
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My take is that you are not and have not used the Hubb to promote your channels.
For me that's absolutely fine and I have zero issues with you attaching links in your signature.
Some, however, constantly promote their channels. Either for a monetary reason (quite rightly against the rules). Or through some sort if hubris/self gratification (just plain boring and tedious 
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If you don't like it, don't watch it. There is enough other content on the HUB.
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I don't think that he was referring to your content as being boring or tedious - but he finds the way that some people constantly self promote their channels - you don't do that.
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Youtube is Youtube and not HU
If I want to watch Youtube, I can go to Youtube.
And subscribe if I so want.
If everyone that made a youtube video related to Motorcycle travelling, would publish that on this HUB.
The HUB would collapse.
I do not see the point of the posts
"Now I have publiched a new youtube video"
That is my view.
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If you don't like it, don't watch it. There is enough other content on the HUB.
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I definitely wasn't referring to your links 
And you're absolutely correct, I do just scroll on by. So it's no big deal really.
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