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Originally Posted by thepinproject
With all respect to Grant & Susan amazing job all these years, for this "product" I am not willing to pay. If the "product" was premium & exceptional with some innovation and differentiation and the added-value would really make a difference in my long travel life, then I would pay not 20 but may 50-70 per year to support the product as well as allow the owners to make some reasonable profit out of it.
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That's mighty generous of you! :smarts:
"product"? So that's how you see HUBB and Horizon's? A "product" to be bought and sold? And I suppose we readers here are nothing more than potential "paying customers" in your scheme?
Good luck with that business model!
You seem to contradict yourself several times in your LONG rant!
(I thought I rambled on! ... are you sure you're not Irish?
Man, you can talk!)
In what way is Horizons not a "premium" service? So what other travel web site DOES offer a "premium" service, in your opinion?
Innovation? Have you ever seen Grant's DVD series for new travelers? IMO, those are innovations at a premium level. But what they bring is also EXCEPTIONAL.
Tell me where else can you gather with experts and pick their brains and hear their stories ... first hand?
"Added value", (man, you want a HELL OF A LOT for free!
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So, it's not enough for you to hear presentations IN PERSON from some of the most experienced and innovative motorcycle traveler legends in the world in your presence?
Grant has managed to bring the most important travelers in the world to his rallies at one time or the other over the last decade or more. Everyone from Ted Simon, Simon Gandolphi, Austin Vince, Lois Pryce, to Peter Forewood, Greg Frazier ... and dozens more travel luminaries over the years. Legends in the RTW travel community ... nearly ALL have appeared at HUBB events.
Look it up man, IMO, about as "Premium" as it gets.
If you can't learn and gain inspiration from these guys, then you may be brain dead.
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Originally Posted by thepinproject
Today, we are privileged to have an abundance of travel info but I think that we need to change the way it is shared, it is gathered and we need to add some value. Added value comes always with a price, right?
Finally, we have -as a community- to decide if and how we want to make money out of travels and overlanding. Someone writes a book, someone else creates a forum, someone else organises events, someone else does reviews and some others create products and services for all of us.
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Are you mainly looking to find a way to make a quick buck here on HUBB?
You could be the guy ta rider is afraid of ... so he rants on regards the crass commercialization of the Adventure riding World.
But, IMO, Grant has steered HU away from this ... but the result is a small forum, but an important one, IMO.
I've seen this change coming on 20 years, and like ta rider, not all that happy. Not all travelers want to figure out how to make money from travel or from a web site or from other travelers ... and rallies that feature $500K USD UniMog's are not my cup of tea either.
So, you're looking for business opportunities here, right? Fact is, most motorcycle travelers simply want to travel a bit, indulge in other cultures, see the sites, take photos, chill out and relax, renew and de-stress a bit ... NOT make a bundle of cash off other travelers.
I'm not a fan of venture capitalist types, sorry ... and hate to think of ADV Travel and HUBB as a "product" ... but I guess we are to some.
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