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For the future... how do I buy a motorcycle with a European patent in South Africa?

Good afternoon
I'm thinking about traveling from South Africa to Europe in the future... but I want to buy the bike in South Africa.
Is there no longer the possibility of contacting people who sell your motorcycle?
Any help will be welcome.
thank you so much.
im Juan Pablo from Mendoza Argentina.
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I'm not sure I understand your question.

Do you want to buy a bike which is already registered in Europe but the bike is located in South Africa?

or

Do you want to buy a bike with a European specification but you want to buy the bike in South Africa?

You can buy bikes anywhere in South Africa.

I think the problem you will have is registering it in your name. You would need to register it properly so that you can take it across borders into other countries.
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Thanks
i whant this....
to buy a bike which is already registered in Europe but the bike is located in South Africa

it is posibel to transfer the bike unther my name?

The idea is to sell the motorcycle in Europe after the trip.
I thought it was the easiest...
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Ok, I think I've got the idea.

You're looking for a bike registered in Europe but the bike is located South Africa because someone has already ridden it from Europe to South Africa.

It is a good idea but here are a few problems I can see with that plan:

1) After riding from Europe to South Africa the bike will need a lot of maintenance before it is reliable enough to be ridden back to Europe. That can be done in South Africa but would take time and money.

After riding through Africa in 2023, I shipped my bike back to Europe and rebuilt it at home.

2) If the European registered bike was ridden to South Africa it may be on a Customs Carnet. The Carnet would be in the original owners name and he would not be able to get his money back on the Carnet if the bike was still in South Africa (or any other country apart from the home Carnet Country)

If the owner paid the South African import duty and tax and imported the bike into South Africa, he could close his Carnet but the bike would then be a South African bike, just like any other bike you could buy in South Africa.

There wouldn't be any benefit to you as it would lose its European registration if it was imported into South Africa.

3) Foreigners cannot register a bike in their own name in South Africa unless they have a South African ID number or a Traffic Register Number (TRN). Tourists don't qualify for a TRN.

4) You would have to transfer ownership in the European country the bike is registered in. Not sure how you would do that if you were in South Africa. I'm sure all European countries have different registration procedures.

Your plan will be possible if you find a bike in SA which is not on a Carnet.
Then you could transfer ownership in the European country it is registered in.

Is there any reason you have to ride South to North? It may be easier to buy a bike in Europe and ride North to South.

Good luck with the search.
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