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are dogs a problem while riding in Morocco?



any known method to repel them?
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Yes, dogs are a problem everywhere. What the guy did wrong here was to try to kick the second dog, then fell off. Duh.

I had an incident on my most recent trip where I saw a large hound bounding across the scrubland with the intent of intercepting me about 100m down the road. I slowed down, the hound got in front, and then I turned onto the scrubland and chased the dog with the bike. Great fun.

Another technique when being chased with a dog is to stop suddenly, the dog can't stop so quickly, overtakes you, and again you give chase.

Seriously though, just stop the bike. They won't come near you, they are so afraid of locals throwing rocks at them.

I do carry pepper spray but that's for naughty Moroccans, wouldn't dream of using it on a dog.
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I do carry pepper spray but that's for naughty Moroccans, wouldn't dream of using it on a dog.
so Moroccans can be naughty?
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Make like you're about to throw a rock and 90% of the world's dogs will retreat. In this respect Moroccan dogs are far better trained than the more aggressive roadside vendors on the Rif.
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so Moroccans can be naughty?
Verrrry naughty; especially if they get access to alcohol.
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Yes, dogs are a problem everywhere. What the guy did wrong here was to try to kick the second dog, then fell off. Duh.

I had an incident on my most recent trip where I saw a large hound bounding across the scrubland with the intent of intercepting me about 100m down the road. I slowed down, the hound got in front, and then I turned onto the scrubland and chased the dog with the bike. Great fun.

Another technique when being chased with a dog is to stop suddenly, the dog can't stop so quickly, overtakes you, and again you give chase.

Seriously though, just stop the bike. They won't come near you, they are so afraid of locals throwing rocks at them.

I do carry pepper spray but that's for naughty Moroccans, wouldn't dream of using it on a dog.
Ha! I like your method
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The dog in the video is responding to about 10 million years of evolution and a million years of living with people. The rules of dog world are:


1. If you can see it it's yours unless a human or bigger looking (this might be a Chihuahua with eye catching teeth and a bad attitude) dog gets there first.
2. Anything that's yours should be pee'd on, eaten or shagged ASAP before any doubt arises over point 1.
3. Humans move at about 4 mph and have faces with a triangular relationship of eyes and mouth.
4. If you are been chased it is because the other thing intends to eat, pee on or shag you.


You can change this behaviour with between three days and three years of planned bribery and peer pressure (or torture if you want a dog that's planning revenge). Anything else is just new and interesting and should be referred to the four rules.


The rider in the video is under the impression dog teeth will damage metal and dog fur is proof against exhaust temperatures. The rider is possibly easier to train (although I sometimes have doubts).


As noted above, just manoeuvre to avoid or ultimately let them bounce off.


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The human in the video needs training. Thousands of years of evolution haven't helped him to understand:
  • Standing on your pegs while riding tarmac makes you look ridiculous
  • It's a good idea not to ride a m/c in shorts
  • It's a bad idea not to wear gloves when riding a m/c
  • Publishing footage on YouTube of you demonstrating the above allows others to laugh at you
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all good advice but pack of dogs or wolves are not fun for sure and it's something that concerns since I like riding alone. How to deal with group attack when you don't have a gun....

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Where in the Greek highway code does it say a biker/ any vehicle has to stop for dogs?

It may come as a surprise how quickly dogs turn and run away when you aim straight at them and accelerate.

It might be worth considering staying at home. The world is a dangerous place.

Or mounting a machine gun on your bike?
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As I rode away from the border entering Bulgaria an alsatian raced at me and grabbed my leg. However with the help of proper bike boots and an accelerating 1200GS there was no injury.

In Morocco the most scary animal I came across was a cow standing in the middle of the road. I stopped, it stood and stared at me for a minute or so before loping off. In hindsight I would stop earlier and not get so close, so I had more escape options as reverse is not practical.

But riding a bike around north west Africa has a number of risks greater than being attacked by a dog. Enjoy your trip!
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It might be worth considering staying at home. The world is a dangerous place.
we have a hero her I see...
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all good advice but pack of dogs or wolves are not fun for sure and it's something that concerns since I like riding alone. How to deal with group attack when you don't have a gun....

The rider in this video is riding a bicycle, and dressed accordingly. The situation on a motorcycle is quite a bit different - the bicycle ride could not accelerate away for example.

The biggest problem with dogs is not that they will chase you, or try to bite you, but that they will wander in the road and become an obstacle.

3 years ago my wife and I were riding a rented scooter (Yamaha Mio) in Indonesia when a mangy dog decided to run across the road straight in front of us in the middle of a small village. We were travelling around 50kmh, I immediately hit the brakes hard and just prior to impact I got back on the throttle hard. We hit the dog amidships, it yelped and flew into the air and somersaulted multiple times before landing. I didn't stop to check but am fairly sure it was fatally wounded - there were plenty of locals to tend to it.

I stopped 1km down the road to check my wife was okay and to see what damage we had done to the bike. To my surprise, not a single scratch on us or the bike.
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That video could have been filmed on my local closed down railway line turned cycle track. Despite numerous notices saying keep your dog on a lead nobody does and the owners only get concerned when the dogs start fighting each other.

When I go running down there it's normal (or usual anyway) to have dogs rush up at you like in the video - not a pack of 25 I admit but often in twos and threes. Some are friendly but some are downright aggressive and it's hard to tell in advance which are which. I think the aggressive ones see you as prey, particularly when you're running away from them. If you ask the owners to control them you either get a mouthful of abuse (men) or a "it's just being friendly" response (women).

A couple of years ago I was running with a group on the trail and we had three little terrier things snapping and growling at us for about 1/4 mile until they were too far from their owners and turned back. A minute to so later a couple of mountain bikers passed us going in the other direction - followed shortly by a loud yelping noise. The dogs had gone for them and one of them had been run over. It was only at that point that the owners took the slightest notice. Fortunately neither of the bikers were hurt and I couldn't have cared less about the dog.

I know the original post was about dogs in Morocco but in my experience it's no better or worse there than in many other places. Of the two worse dog attacks that I've experienced on a bike one was in Mauritania and the other in an affluent part of Pennsylvania. On both occasions they were large dogs that came at me from their property when I was riding past slowly and both of them meant business. The US one was a particularly aggressive animal that tried to attack the back of the bike when it couldn't reach my legs.
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