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2 Oct 2015
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Then many other things before to be worry about mechanics inspections and emissions tests, please tell me that your FJ didn’t have a VW Tdi engine?
If the entire question is about the inspections of vehicles in BA, I can tell you that here for locally registered vehicles is the Vehicle Technical Verification or VTV, nothing special isn’t very strict at all. By now on BA city (CABA) isn’t compulsory, maybe next year. On BA province and other provinces is mandatory from some years ago. On the VTV website you will find what they ask.
I don’t remember how old needs to be a vehicle for be excepted of this VTV (probably an special one is required), my 1964 Jeep isn’t it, for sure needs to be a lot older. I have seen cars like from beginning last century with some special plates and have talked with owners… Also needs a special “classic” register that only allows you to transit for “low speed” streets and strictly forbidden on national roads and highways. Isn’t the same that be accepted as “classic” for be imported.
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No, my FJ doesn't have a VW TDi engine, but nonetheless it doesn't have the original engine. Under the hood is a modern Toyota TDi engine transplant. Do you think this would be a problem for some reason?
Here's what I've been able to find online from the AR government itself: http://www.industria...ulos-coleccion/
And also: http://www.industria...ccion/tramites/
Am I reading correctly that, essentially, to technically considered be "classic," the vehicle need only be thirty years old?
I don't actually care about being registered as a classic vehicle--I care about making sure I don't have to go through equipment inspections and/or exhaust emissions testing. Here in the USA it's the old vehicles that are exempt from such tests, so that's what I've been using a frame of reference. Are there no equipment or emissions tests in BA?
From what I've been able to find online (and in English), AR law allows only two imported vehicles per family, so the missus and I were planning on only one truck apiece, anyway. But we want to use them for international roadtrips, thus being able to cross the AR border back and forth is a necessity. Are AR registered cars not supposed to leave the country or something? Surely there are lots of Argentinians going on roadtrips across their own border?
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3 Oct 2015
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No, my FJ doesn't have a VW TDi engine, but nonetheless it doesn't have the original engine. Under the hood is a modern Toyota TDi engine transplant. Do you think this would be a problem for some reason?
Here's what I've been able to find online from the AR government itself: http://www.industria...ulos-coleccion/
And also: http://www.industria...ccion/tramites/
Am I reading correctly that, essentially, to technically considered be "classic," the vehicle need only be thirty years old?
I don't actually care about being registered as a classic vehicle--I care about making sure I don't have to go through equipment inspections and/or exhaust emissions testing. Here in the USA it's the old vehicles that are exempt from such tests, so that's what I've been using a frame of reference. Are there no equipment or emissions tests in BA?
From what I've been able to find online (and in English), AR law allows only two imported vehicles per family, so the missus and I were planning on only one truck apiece, anyway. But we want to use them for international roadtrips, thus being able to cross the AR border back and forth is a necessity. Are AR registered cars not supposed to leave the country or something? Surely there are lots of Argentinians going on roadtrips across their own border?
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The VW TDi engine thing was a joke, don’t you see the news??? I only wonder why you are so obsessive regarding the emissions and not for the whole red tape you will have to face first for residency (not even talking about double citizenship) and then to see if customs allow you to import the truck. After that, deal with the shipping of the vehicle, the long process of the import and then the register of it. Not even talking about all what you will have to pay… as looks money isn’t the problem… lucky you!!!
If it has a modern engine for sure will be need that is correctly consigned on your original title/registration with the engine number too. Is the modern Toyota TDi engine transplanted worst smoke maker than the original engine? Do you think this would be a problem? Are your emissions radioactive or something worst?
Then you says that you was able to find online some links from the AR government, you forget to mention that wasn’t you who find it, someone posted for you on the ADVriders, … that’s not nice.
If I understand correctly maybe theoretically with a new modern engine, perhaps it will not be considered as "classic", the vehicle need only be thirty years old, but not the engine?
Sure at some point of the importation you will have to go through customs equipment inspections to verify if what you declare is what you bring and that all numbers (VIN, engine, frame, and body) match with all the papers. The VTV (with exhaust emissions testing) will come not before you finish with all the rest included the final Argentinean registration. By the time you finish with all probably even in BA city the VTV will be mandatory.
Argentina law allows only one imported vehicles per adult in the family, for Argentine returnees. Don’t know if applies for foreigners residency aspirants. Anyway if you want to use it for international roadtrips, thus being able to cross the argentine border back and forth; think twice as nearly for sure it will not be possible for a long while. The rules of can’t take Argentinean vehicles on foreigners names outside the country for the first year can apply also as you will be nationalizing it. Or at least till you have your argie DNI and your truck’s argies Titulo/Cedula Verde.
Argentinean registered vehicles supposed leave the country on permanent residencies ownership name and only temporary. Surely there are lots of Argentinians going on roadtrips across their own border, but you are years far to be legally considered as “Argentino” if I can bet. Also for returnees if they bring a vehicle there is a period of time that they can’t let the country what will cancel all the process and could incur on a legal process for smuggling.
So let me ask you few personal things:
Have you ever been even for few days in Argentina? Have you or your partner any argie relatives? Why you wanna move here and get an Argentinean nationality?
Are you the same that years ago here and on the ADV creates very funny threads talking about travel on-road through all 6 (?) continents in just one year without sleep a night on a tent or something similar? Have you ever done it at the end? If I remember there you mistreated lots of mates…. No? Are all of this just because you are boring or we will see your face around?
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Thanks to everyone for all the info! To answer the questions posed to mes:
1) Yes, the US recognizes dual citizenship; no US citizen has to give up their citizenship unless he chooses to do so--the US government does not compel dual citizens to "choose a country." Dual, or even multiple, citizenships is not among unprecedented among a certain set. No, I'm not an oligarch trying to evade taxes.
2) New York City winters are too savage. I was searching for a comparable metropolis to live in during NYC's cold months--voila, Buenos Aires! Gaining dual citizenship seems like it might be the easiest way to travel back and forth between countries every year. Yes, a lot of hassle initially, but much less hassle down the road.
3) Holding multiple passports also allows a person to stay in foreign countries longer.
4) My interest in vehicle emissions testing is simply because here in the United States engine swaps in old vehicle restorations are pretty standard practice. Some states have no emissions testing for old vehicles, such as the one in which our Toyotas are registered; but this of course means that if they suddenly were subject to emissions testing they might not pass since they don't have equipment like catalytic converters and such.
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