Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > SOUTH AMERICA
SOUTH AMERICA Topics specific to South America only.
Photo by Michael Jordan, enjoying a meal at sunset, Zangskar Valley, India

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Michael Jordan
enjoying a meal at sunset,
Zangskar Valley, India



Like Tree13Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 14 Mar 2024
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 244
Hi Peter & everyone,

Thanks for your tips.

I'm in Asuncion. It's been a very warm and hilly ride since Juan Pedro.
The capital city is currently baking in 41°C heat.
I camped a few times along the way but it's difficult to fall asleep with temperatures hardly dropping at night
Rural hotels/hospedajes have been a blessing. They're cheap, ubiquitous and always have AC.

To get to the Falls I'll try to use the backroads where available.
I'm planning to visit both sides.

Any nice route you'd recommend through southern Brazil ( Parana, Santa Catarina, and Rio Grande do Sul as far as the Uruguayan border ) ?
Looks like I can either hug the coast down or ride inland through the Serra do Mar.

Levelo.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 5 Apr 2024
Peter Bodtke's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maplewood NJ USA
Posts: 579
Levelo,

41°C -- WOW! You could cook an egg on the tarmac.

I was on a schedule to meet my wife in Buenos Aires for Christmas, so my ride through southern Brazil in 2012 was a blur. Nothing special to report after hanging out with a motorcycle club in Florianópolis.

Given you are going to Iguazú and are headed south from there, I have a strong recommendation. Go to Saltos del Moconá! Moconá (Yucumã on the Brazilian side) is the world's longest vertical waterfall. Between 2-3 km wide.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/svNSjCerdfdwpY737

On the Argentine side, there is a tour service that will take you down the river on a Zodiac (inflatable boat.) From studying Google Maps and researching the area, approaching the falls from the Brazilian side appears to mean hiking through a park. We decided to get there would be easier on the Argentine side and rented a car in Puerto Iguazú, AR (a 4-5 hour drive.) I don't know if there is a boat tour available on the Brazilian side or if there are any services.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltos_del_Mocon%C3%A1

The rainfall needs to be considered. If you are in the rainy season, the water below the falls rises and there is very little or no waterfall. =( By late April there could be a lot of rain or only some. I suggest checking with the Argentina tourist office or perhaps a hotel near Moconá to learn the height of the waterfall. Brazilian friends of mine rode there in October 2023 and there from Curitiba, Brazil, and there were zero waterfalls. I remember the day they left for the trip, it was raining hard. We went to Moconá Falls in December 2018 after visiting Iguazú. There were falls at that time of year...

https://weatherspark.com/y/29626/Ave...20Chapec%C3%B3

(Sorry for the slow reply.)
__________________
Peter B
2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
2023 - Peru, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia...back to Peru.

Blogs: Peter's Ride
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 26 Apr 2024
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 244
Ola Peter & everyone,

I'm on the coast in Imbituba, 100 kms south of Florianopolis. I've been lent a summer house for as long as I want, and it feels good to be relaxing here

The Falls were great.

To make it to the coast I first went through the beautiful National Park on the Argentinian side of the river. There is a 50 km dirt track that cuts through the jungle.

I crossed back into Brazil at the Comandante Andresitos/Capanema small border post, then pedaled through what I imagined would be the backroads of southern Parana. It turned out be a hellish hilly ride, with lots of traffic and no shoulder most of the time. Southern Brazil has plenty of aggressive drivers, and lots of them thought I was a nuisance in their way.
This part of the country is one of the most stressful places I have ever ridden through.

Santa Catarina was a bit better, with less soy fields, more forest and cooler air up in the mountains.

I'm still undecided as to which route to pick from here to the Uruguayan border. It's either the road along the coast, which I've been told is quiet south of Porto Alegre, or back inland through the more challenging southern part of the Serra Geral in Rio Grande do Sul ( Canion de Itaimbezinho, Canela, Gramado, Nova Petropolis... ).

Levelo.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 9 Jun 2024
marker's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Bombinhas-Santa Catarina-Brazil
Posts: 295
Hi Levelo, I would recommend the coastal route, go to the BR 101 south of Osorno towards Sao José do Norte. Very quiet. Then take the ferry to Rio Grande and on towards Chui/Chuy the border with Uruguay. By far the most quiet route.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-F415F met Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 10 Jun 2024
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 244
Hola Marker,

I did just that.
This wasn't my prefered route but the massive flooding in Rio Grande do Sul ruled all the other options out. I got trapped in the torrential rains a couple of times, Sao José do Norte and Rio Grande were partly under water but the ferry was still operating the day I crossed ( the level of the laguna rose sharply when I was there ).
The coastal route was quiet indeed but still wet and very windy.

I crossed into Uruguay at Chuy, then made my way to Montevideo and Colonia where I took the ferry to Buenos Aires.
I thoroughly enjoyed riding there. Better roads, less traffic and more considerate drivers.
And the cheese rocks !

L.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 15 Jun 2024
Peter Bodtke's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maplewood NJ USA
Posts: 579
Motoviajeros and exchange tips

levlo!

Welcome to Argentina!

Food and Drink
I found the quality of meat raised considerably over the beef in Brazil. If you are a meat eater, enjoy. If you haven't already discovered it, Argentines love a good Milanesa sandwich, and wine and cheese of course. I bought wine in stores and directly from vineyards. Traveling alone, the problem was finishing a whole bottle by myself...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milanesa

Money, money, money...
If you have crisp USD bills (possibly EUROS) you should be able to get as much as 30% more by trading privately or informally (Blue Dollar, Dólar Blue, Informal Dollar, Unofficial Dollar, Parallel Dollar) over the official bank rate. The rates change daily and have fluctuated greatly in the past few months. To trade privately, ask around, at hotels and stores, if anyone is buying. In tourist areas of some cities, you may encounter cambo guys on the street. In October 2023, I heard cambo guys were chased out of Buenos Aires, but ran into them in Bariloche. Go figure.

If you have a credit card issued outside of Argentina you should get somewhere between the bank rate and the informal or private rate. The credit card advantage over the bank rate is supported by an Argentine government "Foreign Tourist Dollar" (also Tourist Dollar, Foreign Tourist Dollar, Dólar Turista.)

You can find the daily rates for the above and more here:
https://bluedollar.net/
https://bluedollar.net/tourist-dollar-rate/

Lodging Resource
Sadly, I learned about this list/map of pousadas after my trip was over. I discovered two by way of recommendations given by friends. I believe some of the pousadas are motorcycle clubhouses. There may be a room with a bed or a space to camp. Amenities such as shower, wifi, and kitchen, surely vary by pousadas. Chances are you will be warmly welcomed by one person or the whole club.

Refugios Motoviajeros AR - https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...98&usp=sharing

I stayed at these pousadas (and wish I had this map above when I was traveling!)
La Posta Del Viajero En Moto
Mendoza 685, Azul, Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina
+54 9 2281 43-0865
Jorge La Posta in my mind is a legend. He has been hosting riders for 30 years! Jorge is a mechanic, artist, music lover, and all-around great guy. He only asks for a donation. Give what you can.

Motoposada los Coyotes in Puerto Madryn
Celular 02804979256 . Colón 1205, U9120 Puerto Madryn, Chubut.
A family home with a few extra rooms that are available for riders. Lovely people. They told me where I could see whales from the beach -- and I did!
What is your plan now? Will you brave the cold and power through the distance to Tierra del Fuego?
__________________
Peter B
2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
2023 - Peru, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia...back to Peru.

Blogs: Peter's Ride
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 1 Week Ago
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 244
Hi Peter, Hi everyone,

I flew back " home " from Argentina one month ago.
I was just beat and the cost of having my winter gear sent to me was more than the airfare
I will spend the summer here in Europe ( relaxing & making a few bucks ) while the bicycle is stored at a carpenter's workshop in Buenos Aires during my absence. I plan to resume my ride south to and through Patagonia in mid-September or so.

Cambio guys were very conspicuous on Florida St. in BA when I was there !

Thanks for your lodging advice and the list/map of posadas. Do you think the hosts would mind a cyclist ?

Levelo.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 5 Days Ago
Peter Bodtke's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maplewood NJ USA
Posts: 579
Hola Levelo!

Many adventurers take a break and then return later to continue their journey. Grant & Susan Johnson, the owners of Horizons Unlimited rode around the world, in segments. They would travel for as long as the money lasted, return home to make money, and then pick up where they left off.

Riding south in Argentina at this time of year is cold, mixed with snow, and more cold. Wait a few months until the weather becomes hospitable and you have built up cash reserves. I don't enjoy extended travel on a shoestring; to each their own.

I was in Buenos Aires in 2023, three weeks before the elections and was told by a friend who works for the Argentine government, that the cambio guys were chased away. It is interesting to note the cambio guys have returned to the streets and goes to show that laws and policies change all the time in South America.

Cheers,
__________________
Peter B
2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
2023 - Peru, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia...back to Peru.

Blogs: Peter's Ride
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buy a bike in south Africa, sell in the north? NewbRider North Africa 3 28 Dec 2019 02:16
New North South Highway in Kyrgyzstan colebatch Northern and Central Asia 1 26 Sep 2019 11:33
Breakdown in South Brazil (Itajai) Odiel SOUTH AMERICA 5 18 Jan 2015 23:43
North Cape to Cape Agulhas (South Africa) McCrankpin Overland Bicycle Travel 0 9 Aug 2012 21:54

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

2025:

  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025!

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:40.