I wonder if the legal representative would be in any way liable, say if the bike never came back to Chile or the foreign owner somehow broke the law, ie rode without insurance, etc?

If you sell the bike outside Chile nobody will ever be able to register the bike in Chile again. Without a "poder" of the legal owner singned in a notary he/she will not even be able to enter Chile.

So this new law in Chile is bad news for every foreigner trying to get a RUT and buying a motorbike in Chile.

End of this year I planned to buy a motorbike in Chile to travel around for a year or so in South America. But as I dont know anybody in Chile (or somewhere else in SA) I obviously won´t get a RUT.

Can anybody tell me which country is the easiest now to buy a motorbike or car and explore South America and sell it later?

I wouldnt dismiss Chile as a place to buy solely because there is an extra step to obtain a RUT now. There is no reason why you cant find someone to fill the Representative Form for you: there is a Chilean community here on the HUBB, I contacted people on couchsurfing to help me and found someone who said he'd fill in the Representative Form for me, a guy who posted here had the manager of the hostel do it for him. I had a French Friend studying in Santiago (considered "domiciled" in Chile) who did it for me.

I think if you explore the forum here more, you can find pros and cons of each country as a place to buy. It takes some time and effort everywhere, the important thing is to persevere.

Which new law are you talking about?
All of the mentioned rules / laws haven't changed since I know Chile, nothing new.
Cars and bikes in Chile are way cheaper than in any other country in south america, even if you loose a bit by selling it somewhere outside of Chile in a notaria to some other traveller, you are still better off.
You just have to tell him that he can't go back to Chile with that bike.

Groschi

Pretty severe restriction given that it would also stop the new owner from going to Ushuia and of course the Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama route and a few iconic national parks and two duty free zones.

But apart from that ....

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Hi all,
Can someone with experience clear for me the possibility of buying a second hand bike from a private owner with only the paper RUT number . Or am I restricted to buying from dealers only?
Many thanks
Vistar

With a temporary paper RUT you can buy from a private owner also, I did it 3 months ago. I was not able to do the transfer of ownership in the Registro though, they made an excuse, so I had to go to a Notario with the owner. I posted the name of a Notario that did the transfer of ownership for me in this thread previously, some Notarios refused to do it, I dont know why its so awkward for them to do it!

Hi,

We arrived in Santiago two weeks ago and bought two new motorbikes from the Honda dealer.
Obtaining the RUT number without a Chilean Resident is still possible in Santiago. First we went to the tax office at Ovalle Str but we were given the 4415.1 Form with the information regarding the Chilean Resident. So we decided to try at another tax office. We found one at La Florida (metro station: Plaza Egana) where we got the RUT without any problems. Just have to come with the 4415.1 form filled in.
As we do not speak Spanish and we wanted to buy new motorbikes, we went to the Honda dealer at Av. Vitacura 9390 where there is a guy, Joel, who speaks English. He was very helpful. If you want, they can also do all the rest of the paperwork for you. It can take just one day.
Good luck!

Joanna and Marek

PS. We will be selling our motorbikes Honda XR150L in Santiago in January 2016, if anybody would be interested

hello, my name is Paul and I am new to the forum, I live in Chile and have traveled quite within my country and some in Argentina and Brazil, also in travel have met many travelers with whom we communicate periodically,
Now if you have a problem to buy a bike count on my support, I would be a pleasure for me to help in any way possible to new travelers and have a group of friends who can help them with paperwork at no cost.
please contact me my mail .minidirtbike @ gmail .com
yfacebock ..klriders chile
paul greetings.

Thanks to all in this thread for some good information.

Paul: Email Sent, I'm flying into Santiago in 3 weeks to buy a bike, some help with this RUT would be great, i'll report back here with my findings on the paperwork situation - Nice way to join the forum!

Ok, thanks for all the information. Although I dont have a RUT number yet, it is always good to know you are not the only one with a specific problem.

And thanks a lot to Paul, who offered his help here.

Just wanted to share a link from a lawyer, that I found today. I dont know that guy, just found the information that he organises a RUT for foreigners even if they are not in Chile:

https://www.spencerglobal.com/privat...oreigners.html

So as I said, I dont know him, just share the information for the very desperate among us

By means of an update, The process of obtaining a RUT is still basically as simple as in Latchy's original post, you just need a Chilean/Resident Representative and that will likely be the tricky part from here-on out for gringos. The consensus seems to be that the form is just scary legalese and the person signing on your behalf is not responsible for fines etc you may incur. Chileans do love their bureaucracy

Visit the local Sii office (The one for Providencia is located at 281 General Del Canto, open between 9AM-2PM) Ask for a "Poder Administrador Representante O Mandatario" and a 4415.1 form http://www.sii.cl/formularios/imagen/F4415_1.pdf

Find someone to come to the notario with you, you bring the above template letter (attached) and your passport, they bring their Chilean ID card, the process takes only 15-20 minutes and cost me 3300 pesos, someone else i spoke to it cost only 2000.

Once you have the notarised copy of the letter, and the photocopies of your passport and the helpful persons ID card you take these with the completed 4415.1 form back to the Sii office and they will give you a temporary RUT number with which you can buy a bike (You can do this portion by yourself)

A tip for the Providencia Sii office is that even though the main doors open at 9PM, if you walk round the back the rear entrance is open earlier so you can jump the queue and go straight to the first floor and be one of the first in.

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Dear travellers!

Arrived today at Santiago from Berlin/Germany with my girlfriend. We already found a 4x4 car which we could buy immediately. Only issue: We dont have a RUT number yet :/

Dear travellers, locals or residents, any help would be highly appreciated! We would also compensate for any effort.

Thanks!
Rolf

great thread guys, very helpful and informative!!

me and my girlfriend will be flying into Santiago at the 17th of november and will be looking for Honda XR250 or 400 or sth similar.http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...es/scooter.gif

Booked into language school as well for the basics

PAUL, i just sent you a PM.
Your help would be highly appreciated, as we have no ideas how things work in South America.

But we are excited as and can't wait!

Cheers,

Hannes