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Selling a bike in Chile not Argentina

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All this information is awesome. I just have one question.....do the same rules apply to purchasing a bike / vehicle in Peru? I cannot seem to find any info on this. After reading many threads on the HUBB, I am confident in all laws involving Argentina and Chile, but there seems to be little info on Peru....

Can anyone help?
Hi, I'm reviving this thread for selling a bike in South America rather than shipping home. With Argentina being so strict I was hopeful that it may be possible to sell a moto in Chile ?
According to the post in ADV rder: Selling a bike in Argentina. | Adventure Rider
It appears I can sell a UK registered bike legally in the Free [Trade] Zones of Puntas Arenas in the south and Iquique in the north - Is this TRUE?
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OH just found this thread - processing info now...
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...que-free-70039

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I spent a good bit of time in Punta Arenas as my bike broke down there and I was in touch with other travellers that wanted to sell their bikes in the Zona Franca", I was in contact with local bikers and bike shops and even with Aduana.

To sell it to another foreign traveller using a socalled "Poder" is more difficult in Zona Franca than other parts of the country. The reason for that is that the Notariuses down there not willing to write such a Poder for a foreign person to another foreign person. Dont ask me why - I just followed another traveller that tried really hard to sell his bike to another traveller and he was doing the canossa walks to Aduana and all the Notariuses in town several times - in vain.
You can import the bike permanently to Chile which will take at least a month and you will have to pay a whole lot of tax and fees - and according to the new rules the buyer will not be allowed to take the bike out of the country if he is a foreign tourist.

On the other hand - it is possible to sell it to a local citizen. He will still need to import it to the country and get chilean plates on it and the chilean owner will only be allowed to use it in the Zona Franca region but are allowed to take it outside for 3 months at a time.
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Hi guys, my wife and I have arrived in Santiago to start our 6 month trip north. I have two options:
- buy a US registered bike (2009 KLR 650)
- buy a Chilean bike on chileauto through Suzi Santiago who are confident they can get us out of the country.

The US bike would be easier to sell in Mexico, but does anyone foresee any issues getting this out of Chile or any other countries?

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Success..!

Following the message above, we bought a Chilean registered moto (VStrom 650) and have been travelling down the Carretera Austral for the last few weeks, as far as the General Carrera lake and then back north to Futaleufu. Today was the big day that we would cross the border into Argentina and I am pleased to say that there were no issues at all. Thanks to whoever suggested using SuziSantiago in the above thread as Noam was brilliant at ensuring that we had all the right papers etc when we bought the bike in Santiago.

If anyone is still interested in buying a motorbike in Chile to travel North, but worried about whether it is still possible to leave the country as a foreigner I can say that it is definitely still possible!

Now we plan to drive North for the next 5 months before selling the bike in Colombia.

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Thanks for the update. It would be nice to know the details of the paperwork hoops needed to be jumped through.
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Hi - I was asked to provide the following 4 documents in order to cross the border out of Chile.

RUT number/screen shot of RUT document, obtained in Santiago using address of a person living in Chile. I used the address of one of the guys from Suzi Santiago, but I met people at Hostel Casa Matte who used the owners address there too.

Padron document this is your ownership document and can take up to 21 days to be available following your purchase of a bike. You can pick it up from any Civil registry office in Chile, which means you can start to travel around while you wait. They just print it off a computer but we got it laminated too to make it look a bit more professional! As I purchased a second hand bike through a dealership, they sent the transferencia contract off in order to start the process for the name change - i think the previous owner may need to do this, but others on this forum probably know more than me about this. NB - I was told that if i needed to leave chile before the padron came through i should be able to cross by showing the transferencia document instead (basically proof that the transfer of ownership is in process, signed by both seller and buyer), but this will depend on your crossing.

Sworn document, (not sure of its name in spanish) this was recommended by Suzi Santiago and they actually had a good look at it on the border. It is a document obtained from any notary that essentially promises that you will return to Chile in order to sell your bike. Apparently there are ways around this if you do not actually plan to return but it seems useful to get either way. This is perhaps the loophole that you are talking about.

International insurance[/B] we bought this online from https://www.hdi.cl/seguros/seguros-d...nacional-rci/#

Hope that helps let me know if you want me to send images of any documents etc.
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Buying a bike in Chile. Law Change.

Now, every foreigner must be Sponsored by a Chilean Resident, in order to get a RUT number. You need the RUT number ( Tax number ) to register any bike or car, in Chile.

I'm in Santiago as we speak. The process takes a number of hours, involving going to the local Tax Office and a Notari. ( lawyer )

I used Camilio Riosf. He speaks excellent English and of course Spanish. He walked with me, did the translating and filled out all the paperwork. With the queuing in line, I had my RUT number within 3 hours. Camilio was great to work with, he also runs an AirBnb, with secure parking for up to 8 bikes.In the nicest area of Santiago.Provincia. Tobalaba. It's a 4 bedroom, super modern, open plan apartment. With WiFi for about $15. ( I've been here for 13 days ).

He charges $90 each, to act as Sponsor and will do all the paperwork for you. The Notari is a separate fee, involved a quick stamp and about $8 to the Notari.

You can not buy a bike or car in Chile without a Sponsor now.

Camilio can be contacted on +56 9 77668780.

Email Camilio.rios.f@gmail.com

I hope this info helps as all other ways of registering and buying a bike in Chile, are obselete. Good news, thus guy sorts it all out for $90. O and Colvin & Colvin the local Honda dealership, can speak English and are aware of Camilio and sell the great XR 250 Tornado and CRF range. And offer a buy back facility. It's the cheapest way to ride Cole, as rental is about $140+ a day. Hola.
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Buying a bike in Chile. Law Change.

Now, every foreigner must be Sponsored by a Chilean Resident, in order to get a RUT number. You need the RUT number ( Tax number ) to register any bike or car, in Chile.

I'm in Santiago as we speak. The process takes a number of hours, involving going to the local Tax Office and a Notari. ( lawyer )

I used Camilio Riosf. He speaks excellent English and of course Spanish. He walked with me, did the translating and filled out all the paperwork. With the queuing in line, I had my RUT number within 3 hours. Camilio was great to work with, he also runs an AirBnb, with secure parking for up to 8 bikes.In the nicest area of Santiago.Provincia. Tobalaba. It's a 4 bedroom, super modern, open plan apartment. With WiFi for about $15. ( I've been here for 13 days ).

He charges $90 each, to act as Sponsor and will do all the paperwork for you. The Notari is a separate fee, involved a quick stamp and about $8 to the Notari.

You can not buy a bike or car in Chile without a Sponsor now.

Camilio can be contacted on +56 9 77668780.

Email Camilio.rios.f@gmail.com

I hope this info helps as all other ways of registering and buying a bike in Chile, are obselete. Good news, thus guy sorts it all out for $90. O and Colvin & Colvin the local Honda dealership, can speak English and are aware of Camilio and sell the great XR 250 Tornado and CRF range. And offer a buy back facility. It's the cheapest way to ride Cole, as rental is about $140+ a day. Hola.
If you read Danielmolloy72’s posting on side 10 in this thread you will see that buying a bike in Chile isnt a problem as a foreigner. Taking the bike out of the country is.
Anyhow - please update us about how taking the bike through a border is going. I presume that your intention isnt to ride the bike in Chile only...
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Hi guys,


Does anyone know of someone in Santiago who's currently helping with RUT sponsorship?



I was going to send a message to Camilio Riosf, but his e-mail address bounces.



I'll be landing in Santiago in about 10 days and am planning to buy an R1200GS from a dealer, so I need to hustle ...
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Does anyone know of someone in Santiago who's currently helping with RUT sponsorship?



I was going to send a message to Camilio Riosf, but his e-mail address bounces.



I'll be landing in Santiago in about 10 days and am planning to buy an R1200GS from a dealer, so I need to hustle ...
So, I don't know anyone who's doing it for free, but SuziSantiago is a company that helps foreigners with getting RUTs and all that. If you know someone, it's possible to go through the whole paperwork process, but it'll only take a couple hours if you do it with the company.
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If you are buying from a dealer most will help with the RUT to get the sale. Otherwise you can ask Cristian at Casa Matte.
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Hello, if you need help, count on me.
You send me an email and I could help you without costs for you.
or you could ask for help from cristian de casa matte.
minidirtbike gmail.com .is my mail.
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buying a bike in Chile isnt a problem as a foreigner. Taking the bike out of the country is.
What is this about? I've heard it's not a problem, then that it is a problem for a foreigner to take a moto out of Chile. I've also heard there is a time limit that the moto can be out of Chile.

What of this is fact and what is fiction?
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What is this about? I've heard it's not a problem, then that it is a problem for a foreigner to take a moto out of Chile. I've also heard there is a time limit that the moto can be out of Chile.

What of this is fact and what is fiction?
If you read the posting I was referring to you will find a few facts....
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